Kudzu: Proof of global warming

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes you said Kudzu on the US alone is proof of GLOBAL warming and then critized someone for citing something occurring in the US alone.

    Talking out both sides of your mouth now.
     
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    The 19th century wants their global warming policy back.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    I call bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Kudzu is not killed off by cold weather. Cold weather slows it down a bit, but doesn't kill it back, it just stops if from growing. Just based on my casual observation, kudzu doesn't seem to grow as well in FL (my current state) vs. how it grows in GA and AL (the two states I grew up in). Part of that is that we have other invasives that tend to crowd kudzu out.

    http://mdc.mo.gov/your-property/problem-plants-and-animals/invasive-plants/kudzu-control
     
  4. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Well, the first makes sense. Kudzu is a legume, and is probably high in nitrogen. If you have a kudzu infestation, I think the best use of the kudzu is to compost it. That said, importing it on purpose is just plain stupid.
     
  5. Grizz

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    That is not a true statement:



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  6. Grizz

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    Ok, boys and girls, I see that we've about exhausted the global warming and kudzu topic. So, I guess it's time to move on to global warming and moose in New England and how global warming is affecting them:

    Link

    Yes, there are lots more stories out there everyone. Stay tuned.
     
  7. Fangbeer

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    What's the matter? Not able to link your previous correlation to causation? No problem. Just dig up another correlation using the same specious logic.

    So today we learned:

    Kudzu is moving north in America because of Global Warming.
    It's not moving further west in America because of Global warming.
    It's not moving further south in America because of Global warming.
    It's been in CT since 1978 because of Global warming.
    It's a tropical vine that is not native to cold climates, but is native to the 43rd parallel N in Vladivostok which also just so happens to run through South Dakota, Wyoming, Oregon...


    invasivore.org/2011/12/species-profile-kudzu/

    So now what are we going to learn?

    Moose populations have started to INCREASE in CT. Is this also because of global warming and parasite burdens due to warmer winters?

    www.ct.gov/deep/cwp/view.asp?a=2723&q=326044&deepNav_GID=1655
     
  8. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Hmm, we pretty much showed the link between kudzu and global warming to be unfounded, so you're changing topics.....
     
  9. Fangbeer

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  10. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    oooh.

    This first sentence is telling:

    http://www.vnews.com/sports/9348597-95/states-study-decline-in-moose-population

    See what happened? Government got involved to try to reduce the populations and now there's more dying than expected. Whoops. Must be the tick's fault.
     
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    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    My cousin's friend's barber said that Bigfoot populations have been affected negatively by climate change, a scientish said so in a blog somewhere too. Come to think of it, I haven't seen any bigfoot in a long time. Must be something to it. Maybe it's all that hair.

    Shave the Bigfoots! for goddsakes man, shave them, it could be a matter of life or death!

    Wait a minute, a BARBER said that, hmmm, who sells shaves too. What a gyp.

    Anybody seen my gravity bong?
     
  12. nra37922

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    Really, I mean really. Best response to scientific data is this
     
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    kudzu is part of the chinese invasion of california :(
     
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    kudzu grows like kudzu, it creeps up pillars, undermines foundations... it can make your home collapse. Then after your home collapses the chinese will come in and buy it off you and then build a pagoda there or something. this is why the chinese pollute so much.
     
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    Yeah, I'm sure it does make for great compost since as you said, being a legume, it probably fixes nitrogen from the air but I think it is a horrible idea for anyone to use it in a compost pile unless their backyard is nothing but kudzu and they don't plan on changing that ever. I've seen squash, cucumbers, beans and all kinds of other things growing prolifically out of compost piles so imagine what kudzu would do. A person could go on vacation and come home needing to break out the gasoline and matches.

    Personally, I think the best use of kudzu in the case of an infestation would be to incinerate it unless you have livestock that feed off of it and even then you'd probably be doing your neighbors and county a disservice by not eradicating it.
     
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    Yep. Mass. is really knee deep in moose:

    :roflol: Open season in the Fall?
     
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    I have it.
     
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    Who's butt did you pull the number 100 out of? The Mass moose population is over 1000-1500 and growing; just like the populations in NY and ME. Why are those populations growing? Are MA, NY, and ME cooling while NH and VT are warming?
     
  19. Grizz

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    Uh ... YO ... HEY THERE ... Do I have your attention?

    Good. You posted something about moose in Connecticut with a link that included this:

    By 2007, the Wildlife Division was receiving about 60 sighting reports a year and had documented 19 moose-vehicle collisions. The current population is estimated at just over 100 animals.

    I believe that answered your question about the 100 moose. Carry on.
     
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    As much as I think climate change deniers are morons, I can't help wondering if all the environmentalist policies are even coming close to slowing the advance. So our cars are getting cleaner and we are recycling more - how little will that matter in the face of increasingly concentrated farming methods, fracking, and a hundred other much bigger things we as a species are doing?
     
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    Exactly. It's like plugging one leak in the dike and then watch two more open up and it won't get any better until the governments of the world can sit down and come up with political solutions that deal with the entire problem, and not just pieces.
     
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    Or a different tilt of the earth that cause a natural rise in temp?

    Or increased solar activity?

    Or, what if the earth is on the verge of a new ice age and global warming - man made or not - is staving off a much worse change in climate?
     
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    While you're technically correct, if you're going that far you might as well ask "why bother, if we might get hit by a giant asteroid tomorrow?"
     
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    As much as many of us think that CAGW believers are useful idiots for politics?
     
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    Yep, as with a lot of debates, both extremes seem to be filled with the hard of thinking. The truth is usually to be found somewhere in the middle.
     

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