Kyle Rittenhouse Book Sparks Uproar

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  1. Turtledude

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    self defense is an area of the law I have lots of experience in and what KR did was classic and legal self defense.
     
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    there was no evidence of Rosenbaum attacking Rittenhouse. You are thinking of the other guy who had the skateboard bedause that is where his injuries occured. Again, "lunged" is not attacking, it means falling forward, literally. And "lunged" is what KR used to describe Rosenbaum.

    You need to keep the different people involved separate. Each did something differently.

    Gun residue on the ends of the hands just dont come from the end of the muzzle of a rifle. There was some gun residue, but it is inconclusive. Other possibilities include being close, say 10 feet or less when he was shot. What actually happened, and where you are getting your information but misrepresented what was said in testimony. In cross, the defense got the ME to admit the possibility that his hands were on the muzzle of the rifle and the ME said "That is a possibility." That is what the defense wanted. It is a classic tactic when cross-examining the ME.
     
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    That is what the defense used as a defense and used the following questions. But acquittal does not mean one is totally innocent. Just means there is enough reasonable doubt to not find him guilty. Does not change the facts of the case. And if you think he actually was defending himself, there are facts that say otherwise. There are facts that say he did.
     
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    yeah it means as a matter of law he is totally innocent. The one opinion that matters is that he was not guilty and that means his presumption of innocence returns. what he did was perfectly justified under the law of self defense. All three people he shot were pretty much scumbags on top of that
     
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    Not really. If he stayed put where he belonged instead of "patrolling" in some fantasy of his, none of this would have happened.
     
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    That's like saying if a woman had dressed in a burkha and not gone out at night she wouldn't have had to defend herself against several rapists. If the scum KR shot had not been part of a riot, and didn't attack him, they wouldn't have been shot. what he did before being attacked was LEGAL. what the mopes did right before they were shot was ILLEGAL
     
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    That is the ininuation, but as matter of law, it means enough reasonable doubt was there in order not to convict. If you say "not guilty" based on the jury instructions, then you are saying there is reasonable doubt to the crime he committed. And thankfully, we have a constitutional provision called double jeapordy where a person cannot be retried in the same jurisdiction for the same, exact crime.
     
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    I am surprised the case was even brought at all. sounds like the DA was pandering to the barking of the woke pack.
     
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    A burka is a cultural item that has been around long before Islam came to Afghanistan. But the point is that if you think you are a cop and try to patrol someplace where there is activity going on, carrying a firearm openly, you are quite literally begging for trouble. People react differently when they see some yahoo carrying a rifle thinking he is a cop or in the army. Sorry, but that is fantasy and I stopped playing Army solder when I turned 9, or Cowboys and Indians, or whatever. Even better, the Wild West is not the Wild West that you see on TV or in movies.
     
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    I wasn't. Some of the evidency by the prosecution was not allowed, including the testimony of Ziminsky. The judge also allowed the defense to call the victims "rioters" which in my view prejudiced the jury into a direction of thinking, making it harder. The prosecution also did not do a good job, but the defense definitely did. At least on paper, there was at least probable cause for arrest and a trial. It is much different to get a conviction than what's on paper from the evidence.
     
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    Courts don't determine innocence they determine if you are guilty or not guilty. Nobody is innocent.
    Yeah, the facts are he was justified.
     
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    they weren't rioters? hmmmm.
     
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    I used Burkha purely to describe an outfit that is the least flattering thing I could think of for a woman to wear.
     
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    Kyle was the victim. the idiots he shot were perpetrators you could say victims of their own stupidity. Why should the defense be forced to lie?
    Yeah, the prosecution shouldn't have been allowed to even have a case. They failed because they were wrong. all defense had to do was correct prosecution lies, such as not calling the perpetrators victims.
     
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    Who cares?
    If you are a criminal enguaging in criminal activity you are begging for troble too. especillay if you mess witha guy holding a rifle. Kyle had more right to be there doing what he was doing than the pedophile the woman beater and the felon. if they were all in jail and the wisconsin police weren't so incompetnet these criminals would be in prison. They were there to riot and hurt people. that is less legitimate than guarding property.
    Yeah, Rosenbaum, Huber, and Grosskreutz acted stupidly. If you can't react rationally to seeing someone with a rifle don't attend riots. It isn't Kyle's fault theses idiots were stupid.
    Do you think riots are children's games? Guns aren't toys, they are for doing exactly what Kyle did.
     
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    I would say thugs or felons.
     
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    LOL. You're now making up crap, again.
    Likely why you won't show the post you're referring to.
     
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    Make whatever excuse you have to to not be honest that's your business.
     
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    Can't believe this thread about a HS dropout killer is still active.
    Go MAGA go?
     
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    NO excuses. You fail to show the post(s) that have your panties in a bunch.
    If you do so, I will evaluate your concern you have.
    But since you can't find it, it must not exist. Therefore, you're panties are in a bunch over something you have made up in your head.
     
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    followed by...
    excuses.
     
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    The Australian version is different my sources indicate
     
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    Reality. You won't quote my post that has you upset. Because it DOES NOT exist.
    Else, you would have already.
     
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    No I am not and yes there is massive evidence fo Rosenbaum attacking rittenhouse.

    Wrong again his hands had more than residue it clearly showed burns caused by contact with the muzzle.

    The video evidence proved that he attacked Rittenhouse.

    You are simply out of touch and uninformed
     
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    People were very evil towards this kid. I'm glad he has came out on top every step of the way. He is legit rich rn.

    This book will make him even more so.

    No amount of being sued could get throw his pile of money.
     

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