Kyrie Irving Fans Protest In Brooklyn To Support NBA Star’s Vaccine Refusal

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  1. Hollyhood

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    Over the past month, Brooklyn Nets star, Kyrie Irving, has made it known that he will not get vaccinated against COVID-19. He’s even emphasized that he’s willing to miss home games, over New York City’s vaccine mandate.

    Irving even took to Instagram, almost two weeks ago, to explain that he’s supposedly not anti-vax, but is. just standing up for people who are losing their jobs, over their refusal to adhere to vaccine mandates. NYC has made it clear, that people cannot enter restaurants, gyms, or entertainment venues, without proof of vaccination.

    On Sunday, the Nets had their home opener at the Barclays Center, where they took on the Charlotte Hornets. They ended up taking a 111-95 loss, though, and fell to 1-2. Prior to the game, though, supporters of Irving, were outside the venue. They made it known that they stand with the Nets star, and also do not support NYC’s vaccine mandates.

    These protestors were right in front of the Barclays Center, as they appeared to try to enter the venue. According to TMZ, barricades were pushed down, and security had to act swiftly. They eventually deescalated the protest, and the game went on as scheduled.
    https://theblast.com/110624/kyrie-i...irving-and-disapprove-of-nyc-vaccine-mandate/

     
  2. Hollyhood

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    The protest was attended by both the vaccinated and unvaccinated. People made it clear that this was not anti-vaxxer rally. It was anti-mandate rally.

    Handling of Covid-19 is the only major issue that Democrats have a slight advantage. Given all the protests, they will soon be on the wrong side of this issue.
     
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    Tough **** Kyrie. You are paid millions of dollars to be a healthy player for the Nets. His refusal is his choice. If I were the GM, I would touch base with lawyers and find a loophole in his contract that doesn't pay him for missed games.
     
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    He is an extremely healthy player for the Nets, and merely refuses to vaccinate. There is no 'cause' for breaching of his contract. He is not a danger to any of the other players, because they are vaccinated.

    I truly hope you guys keep digging in. Only 43% of people in the IPSO (D) poll approve of Joe Biden's handling of Covid-19. He is now underwater.
     
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    He ISN'T paid for Missed Games...
    It amounts to about $380k/per missed game...

    As per the agreed pay reduction, Irving will be docked 1/91.6 of his yearly salary for every game missed due to local mandates (potentially 43 in his case, with 41 home games and two away games in the same market against the Knicks). That means he’ll lose around $380,000 on at least 41 occasions, adding up to around $15,580,000 in lost wages (and possibly up to $16,340,000 if he’s ruled to be on the hook for the Knicks games as well).

    https://netswire.usatoday.com/2021/...ry-how-much-money-will-he-lose-covid-vaccine/
     
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    He isn't missing game. He's ready to play. The team won't let him play, and told him not to come to the arena. Thus, he hasn't violated his agreement.

    If the team refuses to pay him, they are in breach of contract, and the story becomes a much larger controversy that brings together more Republicans and BLM guys. Love it.

    Hopefully, Democrats can convince the NBA to lay the hammer down on Kyrie. Could you put in a word to your lizard overlord? Pretty please with a sugar on top. It would be a real nice gift for the holidays.
     
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    You obviously misunderstand the stipulations of his contact.
    Beyond that, I can't help you.

    Howard Stern said it best:

    "In terms of idiots, he’s got to be the top idiot in the country right now,” Stern explained. “Guy’s got a chance as a young man to make millions of dollars, all he’s got to do is get vaccinated but he doesn’t want to get vaccinated. This guy’s got a history of being stupid. He’s one of those guys who was a flat-earther too. And, you know what, he doesn’t know anything. His mind works in a very strange way.”
     
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    Why do you believe Biden has anything to do with the Brooklyn Nets mandating Kyrie Irving to get a vaccine? LOL

    So can I tell my boss that I refuse to come to the office to work because I feel I am healthier at home? I mean, if I stay at home, I'm not putting anyone else at danger.
     
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    I never said the Democrats made the NBA doing anything. LOL. That's just crazy. You just fabricated it.

    Though, I am saying that the vaccine mandate is associated with Democrat Party.

    In regards to work, do you have contract with your boss? Cause we're talking about contracts. There's many unions that have filed lawsuits and injunctions because injections were not negotiated in the contract. You're totally lost.

    If other people are vaccinated, going to work isn't putting them at risk. And I'm sure your boss will let you stay home if you have the sniffles. But if you went to work sick, then you're a POS. It's pretty basic stuff.
     
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    Dude, it was you who said you hope the Dems and Biden continue to mandate because you believe it serves your political interests. LOL

    So is that a yes? I can tell my employer I refuse to come in to the office because I feel healthier at home? I'm just like Kyrie, I'm healthy as a horse, but I don't feel that I need to be in the office. Like you said, I'm not putting anyone in danger by refusing to come in the office.
     
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    No. I had the third highest score in my contract law class. I understand that part of his contract. Kyrie's contract is governed by negotiated rules between the NBA and the Player's Association. There are currently labor contract cases that challenge vaccine mandates moving through the courts. The NBA isn't going to breach Kyrie's contract before a disposition in those cases.

    There are usually penalties for breaching those contracts.
     
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    Yeah. I do hope Biden continues on his path to mandate vaccines. The optics are terrible. But I don't think it's good policy.

    The answer to your question is "maybe", but probably not. Is there are contract provisions or employee handbook that allows for such options?

    And you're not like Kyrie. The situation is different. You don't want to go to the office, whereas Kyrie wants to go to the office. The NBA won't let him go to the office, because he isn't vaccinated. There telling him not to come to work. The player is obligated to perform his duties, unless the NBA tells him not to perform. If they tell him not perform, they still have to pay him for being ready and able to execute his duty (play basketball).
     
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    I never stated that I didn't want to go to the office. I love my office and the folks I work with. I asked can I tell my employer that I feel healthier working from home because it shouldn't be an issue since me staying at home isn't putting anyone in danger.

    Do you believe that Corporations have rights? Should Corporations set any policy they want if it doesn't discriminate?
     
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    Generally, no. But the analogy in your question isn't similar to Kyrie's situation. So who cares? Kyrie could go to work if the NBA allowed, but they won't allow it. They're telling him not to go to the office because he won't get a vaccination that is outside the purview of his contractual duties. If you had a term contract to work for you boss for six year, but your boss wouldn't let you work, you'd still be entitled to payment under the contract.

    OMG your bit about Corporations making policy isn't relevant. Generally, they can write any policy as long as it doesn't contradict with law or employee and/or labor contracts.
     
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    Those who support vaccine mandates for covid are authoritarians.

    It isnt surprising to see the left support them.
     
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    Lol…it was a tin foil hat rally. That fool is also a flat earther, and he doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground.
    Have you noticed the confluence of stupid nonsense that anti vaxers, flat earthers and climate change deniers all believe mindlessly, as if reality didn’t affect them?
     
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    I thought the entire NBA was part of woke culture. I guess the right can't make up their mind.
     
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    Remember, he's only underwater until the next election, when people realize there's still no other viable choice...

    On topic, idiots gonna idiot... Too bad they aren't actual Brooklyn Nets fans, because none of those cheer his idiotic decision.

    With MacKenzie Blackwood finally pulling his head out of his talented ass, that reportedly leaves only one signed NHL player unvaccinated. Todd Bertuzzi of the Red Wings

    And he, of course, is also an idiot, because he cannot play in games in Canada... And last I checked, Canada has a few NHL teams...
     
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    We leave hive mind thinking to your side.
     
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    Because it's all about punishment for defying you.
     
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    Actually, that would be about punishment for denying the Brooklyn Nets return on their contract, which I'm pretty sure wasn't signed by @WalterSobchak

    I understand Irving will lose millions from his poor decision, but will still make plenty doing nothing while physically available to play..
     
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    He isn't though. If New York quit being Nazis I'm sure he would be willing to play.

    The New York government is denying Brooklyn nets on their contract. Other places don't have those stupid rules.
     
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    While that may be partially technically true, at the end of the day, that's not the way its going to go down since the other 11 (??) Brooklyn Nets managed to find a way to beat that pesky NY government...
     
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    How is following along with do this or you cant do that "beating the Government"?
     
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    We Americans live with mandates every day, all day long.
    Anyone with children in public school knows how many vaccines are already mandated IF you want to send your children to public school. Most if not all the private schools have them also.
    If you drive to work this morning, we all have to wear seatbelts and abide by the rules of the road. Speed limits, traffic lights, stop signs, etc.
    When you get to work, there are a slew of more mandates that are set out by state and federal laws, and the employer has many rules that most of the time have to be adhered to in order to keep working there.
    You seem to believe that this country should be completely free of laws and mandates, or at least only have the ones you agree with.
    When traveling abroad, there are a slew of vaccines one has to have. Ask anyone who's in the military if they have to get shots to go out of the country.
    I guess, according to you, that we are an authoritarian country.
     

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