Las Vegas shooters were white supremacists

What two people believe is not particularly relevant. What a large group believes is. A large number of liberals, leftists, hate Jews. A large number of liberals by their actions and words hate blacks.

 

Odd then that traditional Jew hatred appears among the right. Odder still that a large number of influential leftists are Jewish. Even odder that so many black folks vote for the more liberal politics of the day.

it just doesn't stack up, really. I suspect you're telling lies. Whether you're aware and therefore mendacious or unaware and therefore ignorant I don't know. Do you?

 

And here's another claim you can substantiate: Bundy is a "white supremist."

Guilt by very, very loose association is the most I've seen in this regard. Nevermind that Bundy has black employees and black supporters. Being an older white male with a disagreement with the government is all that is needed in the minds of anti-white racists.

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The hate-Israel crowd are almost exclusively politically on the Left, so I don't know where you get this from. Conservative magazines almost to a man support Israel. You can't say that about the political Left.

 

Ah yes. The US right does tend to mislabel people who are critical of Israel as Israel and Jew haters. It's ignorant behaviour, of course, but to be expected of ignorant people. I think they identify with Israel's openly fascist fringes in the Knesset, too. They're the same kind of ignorant people who cast Hitler -- the poster-boy for Jewish hatred, obviously -- as a left wing dictator rather than the accurate right wing fascist that he was. They're so ignorant they become confused by the "national socialist" name and then believe Hitler was a socialist! Incredible, I know, but what to expect from ignorant people who have a pathetic need to reframe history like that so as to bolster their craven position.

 

It's the difference between being critical of the Israeli government and hating on the Jewish people. I'm sure you can appreciate the difference, right? Like the way you can be critical of the American government while still loving the American people.

 

"White supremacist" is a term coveted and propagated by the (* * * ish) run media to disparage any whites who dare, DARE, speak openly and truthfully about race relations in the 21st century.

OBJECTION YOUR HONOR! This is just another hate filled assertion and conspiracy about the ownership of the media.

YOUR HONOR, PERMISSION TO APPROACH: "Granted"

"Your honor, if truth is to be told, the main stream media is not run by WASPs, Eskimos, Congolese, or Suni Muslims. It is run, owned and operated by "those of whom we must not criticize". Permission to utilize my first amendment rights to speak the truth.

PERMISSION DENIED. Excuse me Mrs. Kagan and Sotomayer, but this is not your court. Permission Granted. Thank you your honor.

As stated earlier, ladies and gentleman, the term "White supremacist" is purposely used to taint and smear any legitimate conversation about the topic of race.

JURY PERSON: The Jury acknowledges the purposely inflammatory and inaccurate usage of the term "White Supremacist." It is the conclusion of this jury that whites of today, know definitively that each race (contrary to contemporary dogmatic doctrine) possesses differences, and realizes that a race, on the average can be better in some things yet behind in others.

PLAINTIFF: Whites of today, ladies and gentlemen, neither revel nor gloat at the fact that some races are better at some things than other races.

An earlier court found and judged it an offense to illustrate the differences in intelligence among the races. Censure and ostracization were threatened when this truth was stated, despite that the plaintiff knows that the intelligence quotient reigns supreme in the Hasidic and Asian genome. This heretical assertion is made by a white being, who realizes the absurdity and inaccuracy of the term "White supremacist".

May I adduce, your honor, that whites of today have no desire of being "supreme". Most whites of today see a blatant and egregious injustice in which the media covers stories, preference is assigned on the basis of race, and a glaring double standard in which folks (males) of the white race are marginalized and disparaged in every news article and TV commercial.

Whites of today realize, your honor, that it is completely natural and benign to prefer to live amongst, work and associate with those of their own kind.

JUDGE: This court is in recess.

(45 minutes later)

After due and diligent consideration of all evidence adduced, this court finds white liberals guilty.

Guilty of deliberately and with malice marginalizing, degrading and disparaging the very people who brought civilization and prosperity to the Western World.

Guilty of libel, slander and calumny in their hypocritical and self righteous denunciation of a noble and valorous people.

Guilty of treason, treachery, deceit and cowardice in their ugly and repulsive futile efforts at undermining any standards of morality and decency.

Guilty of self righteous hubris and arrogance, repugnant to any standards of truth and honesty.

The sentence of this court is as follows:

White males no longer need cower at the cowardly name calling of white liberals.

White males can take pride (just like EVERY other people can) in their race, their accomplishments, and their being.

White males no longer need to feel guilty.

White males can defend themselves and their families.

White males NO LONGER HAVE TO APOLOGIZE.

This court is adjourned.

 

Except those who cast Hitler as a Socialist do so because of his words.

The Nazi Party Program was full of Socialist confiscatory policies and Hitler was quoted as saying,

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

It's chic on the Left to replace the word "Jew" with Israel. Suffice it to say, there are a gaggle of JEW haters on the political left. They're also the ones that tend to spin the "Zionist control of government" meme which neo-Nazis call ZOG.

Racialism coupled with Socialism/progressivism were common beliefs in the early 20th century, and Hitler is just one example of many. Eugenics-via-abortion advocate Margaret Sanger was both, as was Jack London the genocidal maniac and of course Woodrow Wilson, lover of the Ku Klux Klan.

Of course it's well understood the desire of the modern Left to distance itself from its undesirable elements and attempt to consign them to their enemies if they must be remembered

 

They never had to to begin with.

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Singular hatred of the Israeli government and whitewashing Arab behavior is a strong indicator of anti-Semitism, and that's what the Left does in general, on a daily basis.

 

To claim Nazi's weren't socialist demonstrates a severe ignorance on the claimant.

Nazi stands for National Socialist Party.

Hitler expanded national healthcare, engaged in redistribution of wealth and gun control.

 

Heh, Hitler and the Nazi's were social conservatives, no different than the racist retards we see on this forum.

 

Yeah. It's almost amusing watching them recast old Adolf out of their own sphere of ideological belief except for the niggling fact that doing so is about as seedy as it gets.

 

Better minds cast Hitler as a right wing fascist because of his actions and the re-tooling of Nazi history is for the enfeebled who have a black hearted ideology to defend.

 

I seem to have no problem doing it without being labelled a white supremacist. I suspect it's because I'm not a white supremacist.

 

To claim Nazi's weren't right wing fascists demonstrates a severe ignorance of historical fact or, more likely, a re-framing of historical fact in order to enable a similarly fascistic ideology without having to accept kinship with Nazism.

 

Or more to your empowered ignorance of history. Do you know where the term Third Position came from? The Nazis, the Japanese Junta and the Fascist Kingdom of Italy were reactions to lost territories and domestic consumption to the Western Allies. Germany's economic recovery was remarkable in that Hitler saw domestic production increase and he banned trading/speculation.

[video=youtube;mg-v_zMEXZo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg-v_zMEXZo[/video]

Surprisingly, despite having not a single degree in economics, if purely an economist Hitler would've had a much better place in history.

 

And you base that on what exactly?

 

"Better minds" is your way of saying people who share your viewpoint of what Nazis are, and it's an appeal to popularity fallacy. If you want to cast Hitler as right-wing, then you should supply supporting data as to why he's not left-wing. I've already done my part in showing he WAS left-wing and that other left-wingers of his era often had the same racial sentiments.

I feel sorry for people that conflate historical accuracy with support of an (Nazi) ideology to defend and who only take issue when someone says something they became to believe in without bothering to research the burden of evidence behind this belief who now suddenly demand evidence.

Perhaps because the same people have their own leftist black-hearted ideology to defend? There's absolutely nothing wrong with illustrating how the political left miscast it's misfit villains as right wing so as to preserve their leftist ideology and try to make the other side look villainous.

Yet again you are making assertions with only the fallacy of proof by assertion itself as to why they're true. This is not what adult debate is about. You don't respond to sourced posting by saying "only evil people agree with you." That's borderline flame baiting.

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I think the pertinent question here is why you are trying to pretend that left-wing anti-capitalist sentiment isn't rife with flaming racists?

 

So you also think the Communist Party of Cuba are "social conservatives" and therefore "right wing" because they wrote in the Revolutionary Constitution,

http://www.cubanet.org/htdocs/ref/dis/const_92_e.htm


CHAPTER IV

THE FAMILY

ARTICLE 35. The state protects the family, motherhood and matrimony.

The state recognizes the family as the main nucleus of society and attributes to it the important responsibilities and functions in the education and formation of the new generations.

ARTICLE 36. Marriage is the voluntarily established union between a man and a woman, who are legally fit to marry, in order to live together. It is based on full equality of rights and duties for the partners, who must see to the support of the home and the integral education of their children through a joint effort compatible with the social activities of both.


What you're doing is taking a post-modernist view of the current social differences between mainstream US right and left and trying to apply them internationally and retroactively to early 20th century thought.

Economic Socialists are NOT "right wing," and merely having a socially conservative outlook doesn't make one "right wing," either. For a modern example of that, feel free to refer to the pro-Sandinista "Liberation Theology" movement in the Catholic Church.

 

Clearly they were confused. The Gadsden Flag in a symbol of the American revolution, which was an effusion of classical liberalism, the diametric opposite of national socialism.

 

that might as well be ancient history, the flag represents the tea party, now

 

it's a great thing, the internet. We get to see there actually are people who deny Hitler was a right wing fascist. I'd never have believed people like this existed before they popped their virtual heads out from under the greasy rocks they live under. It's funny watching them act like they're going to engage a sensible person in 'debate' about it. They like when that happens, of course, it lends them an air of legitimacy. They're more used to being taken seriously by mouth-breathers and skinheads.

 

We all make god in our own image.

And Hitler is a god to millions of people around the world.

 

All genius analysis.

Threads like these reveal why America is in the midst of a true golden age that will be remembered for all of human history.

 

No, it doesn't represent them at all. It's a revolutionary war flag, therefore it represents the Americans who fought in the revolution.

The flag is named after American general and statesman Christopher Gadsden, who designed it in 1775 during the American revolution. It was also used by the Continental Marines as an early motto flag, along with the Moultrie Flag.

 

not any more