Leader of pro-Putin fraction of Russian parliament Zhirinovsky proposes to governmen

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    Leader of pro-Putin fascist party in Russian parliament Zhirinovsky proposes to governments of Poland, Romania , Hungary to divide Ukrainian State between them and Russia

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    How is realistic Putin´s vision of the European map?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact

    PS Polish government wrote that they think that it was a joke ,and they handle Zhirinovsky´s letter as a joke
     
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    This is banter. The great banter from showman of Russian politics. But every joke has some truth. What did the Polish leaders on Maidan? Maybe to achieve revival Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth?

    "Leader of pro-Putin fraction Zhirinovsky ..." :roflol: Do you really think so? Viewpoint of this buffoon is always opposite of Putin. According to Reuters (28 February 2014), "Although nominally part of the Russian opposition, he is widely seen as a servant of Kremlin policy, used to float radical opinions to test public reaction." I agree with this opinion by Alissa de Carbonnel and Alessandra Prentice. Zhirinovsky achieved its goal if it is already publicly discussed. :wink: My congratulations!
     
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    so why in this case Poland has rejected Zhirinovsky proposition? give me the name of a polish parliamentary who is pushing Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth agenda in Polish parliament?
     
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    Oh you did not hear about the ideas of Lech Kaczynski and Yaroslav Leszczynski? What about Fourth Rzeczpospolita and Poland "from sea to sea", from Gdansk to Odessa?
    Or you want to look other Pilsudski's ideas successors?
     
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    links, my friends links..... dont take it personally but it sounds very Kiselevish
     
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    Which means that Poland doesn't want to take on the burden of the poverty stricken Lviv region even though it originally was part of Poland, and the people in the area want to reunite with Poland. I bet if it was the wealthy section of Ukraine they would be only too willing.

    Hey, didn't the Poles join up with the protesters in order to take over the legitimate government in Kiev? Are you saying it's okay then for the Poles to help create the problems, but it's not okay to solve them if it's going to cost them money? So much for rich Poland. Well at least we can say the Russians are far more humane, and really care about their own people no matter how much it will cost them.

    Now tell me Litwin, what happened to your theory about Russia wanting to take over all the countries in the Baltics?
     
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    i take your bet, you´d understand that one thing Poles are grownups and they are very different form your virtual lovers - Vatniks- teenagers . the "second" polish republic was an apartheid state, and they paid high prise for this, so believe me they have no imperial ambition . instead they are stronger supporters of Ukrainian independence
     
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    Let me tell you something Litwin, the Polish people are paranoid, and do you know what paranoids are? They do what they believe others do, and they are what they believe others are. In other words when they believe that Russia wants to rebuild its empire and triumph over them and consequently subdue them, it's because they have dreams themselves of rebuilding their own empire and triumphing over Russia. Poland should give it up before they get wiped off the map. Just a word of warning. :oldman:
     
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    Russian Vatniks want to rebuild Russian empire and triumph over Poles ...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Zhirinovsky

    by who?
     
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    Russian Imperialists are showing their fascist nature.
     
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    Yeah Poland is a supporter for independence in Ukraine, as long as the minority Polish leaning section of Ukraine controls the rest of it.

    So Litwin now that you told us what Poland wants, shouldn't we find out what the Ukrainian people want...section by section. :spin:
     
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    when Russian Imperialists like you threaten to wipe Poland off the map, the Polish people have a right to be paranoid.
     
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    Putin´s propaganda and lies , U politic has totally dominated by eastern Ukrainians(Russian speaking , orthodoxes )

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    You have a comprehension problem. I never said I was going to wipe Poland off the map, I said if they don't stop their goading and paranoias towards Russia they are going to be wiped off the map. Well what do you think is going to happen to them if there is a nuclear war? Ronald Reagan promised Gorbachev that Nato would not step an 'inch' into former Warsaw pact countries, so tell me now why are there missiles in Poland? Don't you think this endangers Russia, and don't you think that Poland will be first nation hit in case of a nuclear war?

    Obviously you don't care about the people there, but I do. Poland made a big mistake, and maybe they should rethink it and try to live with their neighbor rather than continuing an animosity that existed for a thousand years between Eastern Orthodox Europe and Western Catholic Europe. :oldman:
     
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    Oh so then it wasn't a coup and the government now in Kiev was voted in by the people, and here I thought Yanukovich was voted in. Does this mean the protesters weren't from Western Ukraine and that the media was lying? And when you say Orthodox, which Orthodox Church do you mean the one under Moscow, Kiev or the one with no relationship to any of the Orthodox Churches? Unless of course you are thinking of the Greek Catholics which are under the Pope? Please clarify? :confuse:
     
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    I also think that this message from Zhirinovskii should not be taken seriously. He is a clown of Russian politics.
     
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    protesters were form both parts of Ukraine , and all humanists and world community supported this revolution, only fascistic The Black Hundreds , and always drunk Vatniks supported the other side

    under who? i dont know and i dont care, i am like majority of litwins and Europeans in general the secular person. 1 for sure when Kiev was the biggest European city and megalopolis , Moscow was a @hitty village in the middle of nowhere ...
    PS
    The Black Hundreds song
    [video=youtube;riKN-lfQXJs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=riKN-lfQXJs[/video]

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    was Gorbachev a RF or the Soviet president?
     
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    really?


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    was Gorbachev a RF or the Soviet president?[/QUOTE]

    Really. 11% is just above 7% threshold to get into Russian Duma. So it is not much as you think. And of course, they can not push any laws they want being a minority in Duma.
     
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    Really. 11% is just above 7% threshold to get into Russian Duma. So it is not much as you think. And of course, they can not push any laws they want being a minority in Duma.[/QUOTE]
    how many millions vatniks voted for LDPR last time ?
    and % of "right sector" in Ukr parliament?

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    how many millions vatniks voted for LDPR last time ?
    and % of "right sector" in Ukr parliament?

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    I do not know who are vatniks. And I do not know how many % of right sector in the Parlament of Ukraine as there were not official elections yet.
    What I know is that the situation which is now in Ukraine is the result of the activities of a people from right sector.
     
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    And Boris Yeltsin promised the international community in 1994 that he would "Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty within its existing borders".

    Russia has VIOLATED that commitment. This commitment was paramount to convincing Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons.

    By violating this commitment, and invading Ukraine after they promised to respect Ukraine's 1994 borders after Ukraine gave up its nukes, Russia has single-handidly convinced Iran, North Korea, and China to NEVER EVER give up their nuclear deterent and ambitions under any circumstances.

    Thanks Russia.
     
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    Yes Poland are the inhumane ones because they won't overtly violate international law and the Geneva Conventions and militarily annex Ukrainian territory and rip the Ukrainian nation apart and Russia who just pulled a Nazi Germany and annexed sovereign Ukrainian territory and whose parliamentary members are now suggesting destroying the Ukraine all together is all about humanity.
     
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    I do not know who are vatniks. And I do not know how many % of right sector in the Parlament of Ukraine as there were not official elections yet.
    What I know is that the situation which is now in Ukraine is the result of the activities of a people from right sector.[/QUOTE]
    LDPR, almost 10 millions vote for him(whole population of Serbia , Belgium, Belarus, etc)

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    how many right sector members are in Kyev right new?
     
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    http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/IV_Rzeczpospolita
    http://www.kresy.pl/publicystyka,omowienia?zobacz/rzeczpospolita-czterech-narodow
    http://lechkaczynski.pl/deklaracja/

    And here project of future constitution http://www.pis.org.pl/download.php?g=mmedia&f=projekt_konstytucji.pdf

    Enough?

    For English readers:

    http://translate.google.ru/translat....wikipedia.org/wiki/IV_Rzeczpospolita&act=url
    http://translate.google.ru/translat...obacz/rzeczpospolita-czterech-narodow&act=url
    http://translate.google.ru/translat...u=http://lechkaczynski.pl/deklaracja/&act=url
     
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    LDPR, almost 10 millions vote for him(whole population of Serbia , Belgium, Belarus, etc)

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    how many right sector members are in Kyev right new?[/QUOTE]
    Well, absolute numbers does not mean anything. 10 millions may be a lot for Germany, but for Russia with 150 millions people it is not a lot. It is less than the population of Moscow.
    Yet, important were this 10 millions are located. Zhirinovskiy got a very small support in large cities like Moscow, St. Peterburg. And who cares if someone in Siberia votes for Zhirinovskiy? Most active population are in the large cities and if something starts, it starts from big sities, but not small villages. Zhirinovskiy already exists for more than 10 years on the political arena, and nothing happened, and indeed, no more or less educated person takes him seriously. As for Ukraine, I can only guess, that the majority in the so-called Parlament now are from right sector.If it was not so, they would not vote for the very stupid law to establish only one official language-Ukranian language on the whole territory of the Ukraine. This typical for ultra-right. segment.
     

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