Legendary Journalist Bill Moyers Says He Fears For The Nation For The First Time In His Life

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  1. Space_Time

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    Do you fear for the nation? Are there too many lies for democracy to survive? What's the solution?

     
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    The solution is to build lives as independent of government as possible. Then you can sit back and laugh at the a** clown circus.
     
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    There have always bern too msny lies and secrets and we have always assumed they exist.

    Now we know what they are andvwe fight over how important they are.

    Fact is we were better off ignorant
     
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    A country boy can survive. Much more country boys in this country than liberal sissy boys.
     
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    “Do facts matter anymore?” Moyers asked, referring to the impeachment investigation. “I think they do."

    He referred to Trump’s “astonishing” response from the crowd at a campaign rally last month in Louisiana.

    “They believed everything he said,” Moyers noted. “I’m hoping only 10% of those people watch the hearings ... They will see it is not a witch hunt, and they will begin to doubt their master. And they will begin to break off and maybe become a citizen again.”

    How do Trump's supporters stay loyal to Trump? By avoiding what he says and does in his governing capacity.
     
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    I think that you can look to the news media for that. They focus on it, promote it, incite hostility and anger. The right resents it- the left loves it.

    However- it is creating a dangerous situation. There comes a time when behavior is so bad people just refuse to tolerate any more of it. I know many people who are deeply concerned for the future- their children, grandchildren.
     
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    Moyers and you are missing the point. It is not that we believe Trump or even the possibility that he is guilty. It is the democrats that bother us even more. They decided they wanted to impeach Trump from the time he was elected. They have piled on so much craps that it is impossible for anyone to determine what is real and what is fabricated. And we have seen enough to know that some is fabricated. If you don't believe that is true, you are guilty of the same thing that Moyers is accusing us of.

    A further point is the way the impeachment is being conducted. The democrats have impeded any reasonable. kind of defense. The republicans want to call the Biden's and the whistle blower. They say the Biden's are not relevant. They are the key to any possible Trump defense. Normally, I might agree on the whistle blower, however, he is making the accusations. He did not merely say you need to take a look at this and walk away. He has become a key part of the impeachment. There is so much wrong with the impeachment that the senate or SC will end it very quickly.
     
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    Not in fear at all.

    We're GOING to have a Civil War soon, I'm positive, but **** happens.
     
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    FUNNIEST thing about this, the lie situation Bill brings up...is it was said on CNN!
     
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    There will be no civil war. We are going to have open impeachment hearings starting Wednesday. Hopefully the American people will be advised of just what a slimy administration Trump is running and how destructive it will be in the long run. Then either he will be removed by the Senate or there will be an upcoming election in which hopefully Trump will be trounced. In that case, we will never have to pay any attention to this silly loudmouthed idiot or any of his misguided followers again. They will be relegated back to the bowels of Internet nut blogs and the AM radio sewer where they belong. If Trump somehow manages to pull another rabbit out of his ass, we will all have to suffer through another 4 years of his big ignorant mouth and his corrupt ways. However we will as we always have, will survive and become wiser and stronger as a result.
     
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    Hold on to your hope.

    I see reality coming... And most of our citizens.. the leftist liberal socialist ****Wits primarily... can't take reality.

    I'm not saying next year, but it IS coming.
     
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    IKR?

    Because all the Leftists would have killed themselves with spoons.
     
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    Certainly happier than Clinton supporters..
     
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    Do you really expect us to believe that this "*NB: It took me a long time to research the validity of my arguments, and I suggest you do the same. Please refrain from responding if the only argument you can come up with is a Conspiracy Theory." Went into your response to this
    response from you?
     
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    Leftist, schmeftist.......There have always been idiots on both sides of the political spectrum. However at this time with the emergence of the Orange Bozo, the right has flipped its wig.....Their attempt at starting any kind of civil war will end in about 10 minutes when they shoot eachother in the ass and themselves in the foot....It’ll be like a couple of 5 minute 3 stooges shorts...
     
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    As a fiscally conservative Libertarian, I'm able to clearly see the bullshit on both "sides".

    You assume it will be Conservatives will start a war?

    You seen the AntifAssHats?

    Yeah though they ought to be wiped out quick.
     
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    I can't fault you for hoping, given that that's your best bet to save your idol.
     
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    I didn't vote for Trump.

    The ONLY reason I WILL in '20 IS TO PISS OFF LEFTIST SCUM!
     
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    Oh wow! I'll tell Clinton supporters that you believe they are not ignorant. I'm sure they'll be thrilled.
     
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    If we can avoid civil war, theres still the unsustainable lending/spending that the entire world has been engaging in looming on the horizon.

    I can't say Im afraid, but Im definitely getting prepared.
     
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    Both the so called conservative Proud Boy nit wits and the mask wearing so called liberal Antifas are ignorant loudmouthed trouble making scumbags. One of each have been sentenced to jail time in the past month and I’m sure they have both been infiltrated by the authorities and hopefully more from both of these idiot outfits will be locked up in the future. Bunch of punks.
     
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    They aren't ignorant.. they are just in denial.
     
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    That’ll teach ‘em......lol
     
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    I don't think that you losing two presidential elections in a row will piss off anybody other than yourself.
     
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    Typical.

    As a Leftist, you can't see that the country is really sick of your (not specifically you) bullshit.

    This "Impeachment" is likely going to see democrats losing all real Federal power for decades.
     

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