Let's put this myth to rest once and for all: The Republican Party is NOT the "pro-life" party.

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  1. Right is the way

    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    Comparing abortion to the death penalty is like comparing drowning puppies is a sack and killing a rabid dog. Not even close to the same thing. Surely you can see were someone has more compassion for an innocent baby and no compassion for rapist, molesters and murders.
     
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    Pro-lifers don't want women to HAVE a choice.
     
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    Irrelevant.
     
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    Not to the fetus.
     
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    Jolly Penguin Well-Known Member

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    Yup. If one person insists on assigning motives that isn't a good faith discussion and others will simply reply in kind.
     
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    Still irrelevant.
     
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    Lefties always say this **** as if they give a **** about those already born. The left doesn't give a **** once your born any more than the right. This is a tired, played out argument that can't be supported.

    This entire thread's premise is based on total bullshit.
     
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    It's based on feigned mind reading and broad sweeping generalization, so it is bad faith IMO.

    Better to speak on specific subject matter and people's actual positions. Such as, what do you think should be done about homeless children, and do you support this or that strategy, etc.

    And just because somebody supports not killing a person in X situation doesn't mean they won't support killing a person in Y situation. Self defence, criminal culpability, security, and even what is or should be personhood itself all come into play here.

    I personally am fine with early abortion because I don't consider a newly fertilized egg to be a person, and it draws no more compassion from me than an insect. That it has potential to develop into a person does not mean it is now a person. On the other hand I oppose the death penalty because I don't have faith that the system will never make mistakes and out innocent people to death. These are two different issues so I see them differently. So does the pro-life guy who is for the death penalty.
     
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    BTW just once I would like to see a politician call themself Anti-Choice or Anti-Life just for the hilarity that would ensue.
     
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    You are just being silly. You are saying that because Republicans believe in putting some POS murder rapist to death means that they really don't care about whether a fetus lives or dies.

    I could say that the Democrats don't really care about a woman's bodily choices because you want to force her to get the Covid Vaccine. Rape is aweful but if you believe that killing a fetus is murder, then why would you believe that it's OK to murder a fetus that was the result of a rape? If the woman has a baby as a result of rape, is it ok to murder that person after they are born? Why would you draw a line if you cannot define the line (which you already have said that you couldn't.)
     
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    Wtf lol so 5,000+ is rare?

    Whether you think they’re rare or not is irrelevant. They happen and 5,000+ Is not a “rare” occurrence. Furthermore your claim that they’re done mostly for the health of the mother is preposterous. That’s not the case at ANY week. Women have their babies aborted as a form of birth control as the most likely reason REGARDLESS at what week it is.
     
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    No it’s called logic.

    You can’t be for bodily autonomy if you believe in restricting abortion at ANY point. Because if the argument is that the woman has bodily autonomy, then she has bodily autonomy on day one of the pregnancy and she has bodily autonomy up until the last moment before she gives birth.

    If you DONT believe that then you DO NOT believe in a woman’s bodily autonomy. If you believe you can restrict when a woman aborts regardless at what week that is then you’re pro-life you just draw your line later than we do.
     
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    So, you were okay with those kids in cages when Obama policy put them there, right...? It sure seems as though you are.
     
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    the obama "kids in cages" refers to children who crossed the border alone, not to separating family's, again this is a half truth RW talking point
     
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    5,000 after 21 weeks in a population of 300+ million IS rare


    Just because you want Gov't small enough to get in a woman's body, doesn't restrict their RIGHTS to body autonomy m according the the 14th, except when those activists right wing judges act of course!
     
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    It does. And they still were put in cages. Regardless of the spin. You understand that, right?
     
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    Call it whatever you want but we know the left’s lust for fetal blood won’t be satisfied until we approve abortions up until kindergarten
    Gotta love people that try to preach morals while supporting baby murder
    There is good news though. At least the babies that do get to live will be indoctrinated into the lefts sexual grooming agenda for grades k-5
    The future sure looks bright

    sad!
     
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    That’s fine. So then if a man gets a woman pregnant and he decides he doesn’t want the baby come week 10 and he spikes her drink with abortion meds causing her to lose the baby but with no harm to herself, he shouldn’t be charged with murder. Right?

    If the 30 week pregnant woman goes to a gas station and gets assaulted and she loses her baby, she should be able to charge him with assault but not murder. Right?

    Because as of right now both of those are murder.
     
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    Nah, Obama keeping over 30,000 kids in cages while being processed because they crossed the border without a parent/adult I find highly inhumane .

    I loved Trump's /Jeff Sessions "Zero Tolerance" policy and keep re-watching the footage of traumatized children screaming as they're ripped from their parent's arms and now knowing they would be lost from their parents and many still are in Trump's "MAGA" system that didn't track them makes it all the sweeter.

    Damn the Biden administrators working tirelessly still trying to reunite these children with their parents.
     
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    You are distorting what happened, under Obama they built them to separate them by age and sex to protect them, as the immigrants kids came alone and were in sweltering heat.

    Trump purposely separated the families and put almost 5,000 in cages, hundreds are still separated because families can't be found thanks to Trump's ineptness

    The rights inability to critically think and use of bumper sticker "reasoning" doesn't equate to an equivalency
     
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    If they weren’t tracked how do you know they’re still in the system? The system btw that you folks are in control of.
     
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    Know what body autonomy is?
     
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    Find a doc who agrees with you? Who will perform that procedures!


    Without false premises, distortions and lies the right wing would have nothing
     
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    The Trump administration's "zero tolerance" immigration policy separated over 5,000 children from their parents, with no tracking process or records that would allow them to be reunited.


    Parents of 545 Children Separated at the Border Cannot Be Found
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/21/us/migrant-children-separated.html


    NO PAYWALL LINK
    https://archive.ph/ttIca
     
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    i suspect many RW posters are also conspiracy types and follow the century's old anti semetic baby eating BS that entities such as Qanon push...there really is no responce to this rubbish other than please use the internet to learn about things, in a perfect would we would know when human life begins, but our world is messy and so many women's issues cloud the abortion issue, and nobody is claiming an abortion is a happy choice, but sometimes a necessary choice
     
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