Liberals use political correctness as de facto censorship.

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  1. Conservative Democrat

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    No one should be punished in any for telling the truth.
     
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    Rushton's work has been heavily criticized by the scientific community for the questionable quality of its research,[2] with many academics arguing that it was conducted under a racist agenda.[3] From 2002 until his death, he served as the head of the Pioneer Fund, an organization founded in 1937 to promote eugenics,[4][5] which has been described as racist and white supremacist in nature,[6][7][8] and as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[9] He also published articles in and spoke at conferences organized by the white supremacist magazine American Renaissance.[10]
     
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    Professor Rushton's work has been condemned and too frequently suppressed by those who disagree with Thomas Jefferson, who said,
    “There is not a truth existing which I fear, or would wish unknown to the whole world.”
     
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    Rushton is a white supremacist.

    You're lucky you can regularly quote his material since this is a forum that supports you in doing such.

    iDont have that privilege
     
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    I fail to see how your example is not politically correct. If it's a fact, it's a fact, politically neutral. Maybe come up with another example or I could give you one.
     
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    Feminist icon and planned parenthood founder Margeret Sanger had in her words in her own book, "a negro eugenics program."

    She was responsible for sterilizing thousands of people, many of them African American and poor.

    Sanger was a proponent of negative eugenics, which aimed to improve human hereditary traits through social intervention by reducing the reproduction of those who were considered unfit.
     
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    Not sure where you get "she was responsible for sterilizing thousands of people", but her brand of "eugenics" was "We maintain that a woman possessing an adequate knowledge of her reproductive functions is the best judge of the time and conditions under which her child should be brought into the world. We further maintain that it is her right, regardless of all other considerations, to determine whether she shall bear children or not, and how many children she shall bear if she chooses to become a mother."

    Well, that continues to be the Planned Parenthood philosophy. Unlike PP though, she was against abortion and was for compulsory segregation or sterilization for the "profoundly retarded".

    If you think she wanted to suppress the Black birthrate and was against abortion why doesn't the right love her?
     
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    Professor Rushton acknowledges that Orientals (AKA East Asians) tend to be more intelligent than whites, and that they have lower rates of crime and wellfare expense.

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    RACE, EVOLUTION AND BEHAVIOR: A Life History Perspective
    2nd Special Abridged Edition
    Professor J. Philippe Rushton
    University of Western Ontario

    London, Ontario, Canada N6A 5C2

    Modern science shows a three-way pattern of race differences in both physical traits and behavior. On average, Orientals are slower to mature, less fertile, less sexually active, less aggressive, and have larger brains and higher IQ scores. Blacks are at the other pole. Whites fall in the middle, but closer to Orientals than to Blacks...

    Race differences start in the womb. Blacks are born earlier and grow quicker than Whites and Orientals. The three-way race pattern occurs in milestones such as sexual maturity, family stability, crime rates, and population growth...

    IQ tests measure intelligence and predict real life success. The races differ in brain size and on IQ tests. On average Orientals have the largest brains and highest IQs. Blacks average the lowest, and Whites fall in between. The brain size differences explain the IQ differences both within groups and between groups.

    http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/JP_Rushton/Race.htm
     
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    Rushton's work has been heavily criticized by the scientific community for the questionable quality of its research,[2] with many academics arguing that it was conducted under a racist agenda.[3] From 2002 until his death, he served as the head of the Pioneer Fund, an organization founded in 1937 to promote eugenics,[4][5] which has been described as racist and white supremacist in nature,[6][7][8] and as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[9] He also published articles in and spoke at conferences organized by the white supremacist magazine American Renaissance.[10]
    Also in 2020, Andrew Winston summarized Rushton's scholarly reception as follows: "Rushton's work was heavily criticized by psychologists, evolutionary biologists, anthropologists, and geneticists for severe scientific inadequacies, fundamental errors, inappropriate conceptualization of race, inappropriate statistical comparisons, misuse of sources, and serious logical errors and flaws."[65]

    In 1989, geneticist and media personality David Suzuki criticized Rushton's racial theories in a live televised debate at the University of Western Ontario.[66] He said: "There will always be Rushtons in science, and we must always be prepared to root them out". At the same occasion, Rushton rejected believing in racial superiority, saying "we've got to realize that each of these populations is perfectly, beautifully adapted to their own ancestra
     
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    Revealing that they dont ever dispute his statistics on rates of maturity, fertility, sexually activity, aggressiveness, brains size and IQ scores. Instead they go straight to claims of racism.
    Blacks are on average taller, longer arms and legs, more muscle mass, higher bone density and higher heart and lung capacity. These are facts one can say without being branded a racist. I guess its too hard to deny with NFL or NBA broadcast on TV. Pointing out any other racial differences and one is branded a racist, a white supremacist. If a black person pointed out the differences above, would they be labeled a black supremacist?
     
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    Good of you to acknowledge facts.

    However, iq is not a testament to ones intelligence since it cannot determine creativity, which is of course, the pinnacle of human intelligence and what separates humans from monkeys and reptiles.
     
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    Id disagree in that most highly creative people also have high IQs. And Rushton to my knowledge doesnt make any claims as to creativity among the races so not sure of the relevance.
     
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    The relevance is that rushton was an avowed white supremacist and in that regard, deserves zero credit for any opinion he has, at all.

    As for creativity and iq, many highly creative ppl have an average iq which naturally means there is no correlation. It's not a complex issue.
     
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    I was commenting on his statistics, not his opinion. And when has Rushton ever claimed to be a white supremacist
     
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    His statistics? As for creativity and iq, many highly creative ppl have an average iq which naturally means there is no correlation. It's not a complex issue.

    Him attending KKK rallies should answer your query
     
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    . His statistics prove nothing about intelligence.
     
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    No one should get bitten for pulling the ears of a sleeping dog. However, it happens as a natural consequences of a stupid act.
     
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    It is rude to tell a man you think his wife is ugly, even if you do. Nevertheless average truths about different races have valid political implications, and should be discussed publicly.
     
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    Then go discuss them as opposed to shooting from behind the safety of your keyboard.
     
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    We currently have no other measure of intelligence than the intelligence quotient. Perhaps you should advocate for the creation of a creativity quotient. I doubt that it would have any significant correlation with success in the modern world like the IQ does.
     
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    What silliness. All his studies show that asians score higher than whites on IQ. Have lower aggressiveness and prevalence of crime than whites.
     
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    Iq doesn't measure intelligence though. There is a reason Oxford and Cambridge don't use iq tests, because it doesn't measure intelligence since it can't account for creativity which is the highest level of intelligence.
     
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    He was a white supremacist. He attended kkk meetings.
     
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    Fascinating the difference between the reaction to learning that Asians on average score higher on IQ and lower on crime, poverty, single motherhood, drug addiction and HS dropouts, than whites AND

    the reaction to learning that whites on average score higher on IQ and lower on crime, poverty, single motherhood, drug addiction and HS dropouts, than blacks.

    Most conservatives opposed to affirmative action giving preference to blacks are equally opposed to affirmative action that penalizes Asians.

    While most proponents of affirmative action giving preference to blacks, are perfectly fine with affirmative action that penalizes Asians.

    CRT craziness.
     
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    Im not finding anything searching on Rushton and the KKK. And the fact that the KKK pointed to Rushtons research for support of racist views. doesnt change the legitimacy of his statistics.
     

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