Live: Trump holds MAGA rally in Tulsa, OK

That's a clear indicator that Trump has no ideology of his own and is easily swayed by what he believes to be the popular rhetoric. It's how ghouls like Stephen Miller have his ear.

 

Not to you, and that's okay.

 

I like Trump for not being heavy of ideology and doctrine. I like his pragmatism and good results, especially those that came before Chiner sent us the novel coronavirus.

 

Not to anyone that doesn't huff Don the Con's bullshit like it's Shalimar, and that's okay.

 

Me too. He thinks like a businessman, not a politician. Put a bunch of brains in a room, listen to everyone's ideas with an open mind, then, as leader, choose what you believe is the best of all ideas or combination of ideas. Government is too rigid. The flexibility has advantages.

 

Yes, it is.

 

Actually trump breaks up the number of reporters that come into press briefings...it’s not entire press corps all at once, but they all get a chance to be there. Even fake news cNN and MsDNC

 

He who don't believe in the government governs best.

 

Those who think government is the problem go out of their way to make government the problem when they run the government.

 

Vote AL FRANKEN 2020 !

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No, wrong, you keep missing the point. Neither my opinion nor yours will change the FACT that poor attendance had nothing to do with traffic, the media, or protesters. Facts are facts, you don't get to make them up. Gravity exists whether we believe in it or not. Stop clinging to the fantasy that Trump still maintains a huge amount of support. It's slipping, and that is a FACT. It has nothing to do with your views or mine.

I've explained this in as many ways as I can. Accept the truth or not, but stop spinning this in endless "I like Trump therefore he's popular" circles.

 

There are multiple possible reasons why, likely a combination, not as many people showed up as expected. Neither of us gets to make up facts. Opinions are what they are; neither right or wrong.

 

Let's settle this by slicing it through the middle. Is it possible that Trump has lost support? Yes. But is it impossible for him to gain it back? No, it's not impossible. A rally in June says nothing about the results in November. Especially if Trump can continue a media blitz, the importance of rallies(regardless of size) can't be understated.

They show that the campaign is serious, that the candidate is serious. That the candidate is willing and able to hear your concerns directly. Biden being in his basement can't be a forever thing if Trump can manage to climb up while Biden stagnates.

 

Biden is leading all polls simply by staying in his basement. Even Rasmussen & Fox News polls has Biden ahead. LOL

I can't imagine the horror and utter failure the GOP will feel if Trump loses to an old codger who never left his basement to campaign. LMAO

 

That however is in June, November may(or may not) tell a different story. We've got a long way to go yet in the campaign and I do believe Biden's going to have to weigh public safety/availability as the election draws nearer, you can't let a one sided message happen even if it's from Trump.

 

Could a drop in Trump's popularity be one of the factors?

 

True. A lot can happen during a few months in an election cycle and Independent swing voters can be fluid and fickle. It's very possible that nothing that's happening today makes a difference, and that some big "event" in October causes a final push left or right.

Biden's team just accepted the debate schedule this morning. Sept 29, Oct 15, Oct 22. Vice Presidential debate is scheduled for Oct 7th. I wouldn't place a bet on a Biden or a Trump victory until a few more months have passed.

 

Sure it's "Early".

That said, I would rather be Biden than Trump.

 

If we select Trump again, we deserve everything coming to us as a nation and a people.

 

Could be, but I don't think that's the largest factor for the low turnout. Trump drop in approvals comes from Dems and Independents, not from Trump supporters...the people who would be interested in attending a rally.

Trump's approval is about 2 points ahead of where Obama was on this day in his first term. So, about the same spot a few months before reelection campaigns.

 

I would never wish Alzheimer's upon anyone, but whatever you prefer.

 

That is correct.

 

Trump doesn't do that. The White House Correspondents Assoc. does that.

 

But if there is no significant traffic then you can't use that as an excuse. Just like you can't blame it on bad weather or a large pack of wild dogs.