Long-term Lancet study, vaccines don’t prevent death

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Ever heard of a thing called the “Impact factor”?

    https://academic-accelerator.com/Impact-of-Journal/The-Lancet


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lancet
     
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    Who controls almost all Big Pharma + Big Media? You’ll never guess
    BlackRock and the Vanguard Group, the two largest asset management firms in the world, combined own The New York Times and other legacy media, along with Big Pharma.

    When you consider what BlackRock and the Vanguard Group are, what do you think comes first, profit or health? It is profit. Big pharma is only there to produce and pedal meds to 'mask' symptoms and not cure the root cause of any ailment. Keep the masses sick so they can profit from the large cash cow of humanity.
     
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    Whooops still playing “Whack a Mole” with conspiracy theories?
    :roflol::roflol::roflol:
    And you are quoting from “Lifeshitenews”

    Shakes head :roll: - you DO who owns that premier misinformation portal don’t you?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LifeSiteNews

    it has a long history of spreading misinformation

    https://www.ncronline.org/news/life...ok-violating-covid-19-misinformation-policies

    IT IS A CONSPIRACY THEORY SITE,!!!
     
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    You quoting Wikipedia is :roflol::roflol::roflol:
    My question is, who states they are a "conspiracy theory site", you or a source, if a source, who/what?
     
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    Wiki is an open site - got proof that it is biased currently? Oh! And my views of “Lifeshienews” predates COVID as I caught them repeatedly lying about abortion related issues
     
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    Your beloved Wikipedia acknowledges Operation Mockingbird. You should check it out.

    As for Reuters
    AllSides Media Bias Chart

    I can understand your "lols" because it has it is startling info.
     
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    You haven't answered the question.

     
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    Why? It's not like you would care about something like credibility, being a leftist.
     
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    So, you actually have no evidence to back up your comments about the Lancet. I didn’t think so.
     
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    upload_2022-11-20_18-27-51.jpeg

    Still have not backed you own claims
     
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    Shhhhh! It is an article of faith! :roll:

    With an impact factor of over 200 it beats out even journals like “Nature”
     
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    That is blatantly false, easily checked, and ridiculous, on its face. "Big Pharma" consists of numerous, competing corporations. They do not have the same owner. In fact, they are likely all publicly traded companies; that is, none of them have a single owner. As for the NYT:

    <Google Snip>
    Who is the New York Times owned by?
    the Ochs-Sulzberger family
    As a public company, The Times trades under the ticker symbol NYT, but the business is controlled by the Ochs-Sulzberger family through a trust. The publisher, A.G. Sulzberger, is a fifth-generation member of the family. Additional financial information can be found here.Jul 20, 2022
    https://www.nytimes.com › article
    What does The New York Times own?
     
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    AGAIN

    So whats happening in the yellow areas? :D

    [​IMG]




    Im still waiting for someone to tell me how its possible for a SUCCESSFUL 'vax' to have those yellow areas? I thought a vax was supposed to promote immunization of a target virus NOT create more problems, especially for the people with comoribidities that need it most!?

    Those yellow areas remained unexplained by the vaxors out here! again especially the last set, the people with the highest comorbs!

    [​IMG]
     
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    AHAHA:roflol::roflol::roflol:
    Gooooooooogle!!!!!!!
    You know Google is part of big tech, who are censorship nazis and make it difficult to find if not remove content that goes against the grain.

    Publicly traded companies, do you know who and what BlackRock and the Vanguard Group are? They pretty much own fking everything and have major holdings in every industry.

    BlackRock Inc. - Portfolio Holdings, AUM (13F, 13G)

    Vanguard Group Inc - Portfolio Holdings, AUM (13F, 13G)
    Index of US Mainstream Media Ownership
    Who owns the world’s largest pharmaceutical companies?
     
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    Your cited article, does not back up your original statement, that "Black Rock & the Vanguard Group...combined, own the New York Times and...Big Pharma."*

    From your article:
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    They are not even reviewed by competition authorities as long as an investor such as BlackRock keeps its shareholding at less than 10 percent in a pharma firm. They are classified as passive investors.
    <End>

    Sure, everyone who owns stock, is an "owner" of the company. But that does not mean they, individually, control the company.

    You realize, that Vanguard is a fund, with MANY investors, and which anyone can invest in, right?



    *UntilNextTime said: ↑
    BlackRock and the Vanguard Group, the two largest asset management firms in the world, combined own The New York Times and other legacy media, along with Big Pharma
     
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    Geeze, what's with the large text, can't you read well? You forgot to go bold.

    Yes, they are investment companies, that manage individual funds and portfolios, so what does that tell you? That anyone invested in them potentially is a proportional owner of big pharma or company that BlackRock or Vanguard have invested in.
    When you have stock in a company, depending on the quantity determines the voting power of the entity that owns that portion of the shares of that company. ARE YOU KEEPING UP?

    If you look carefully at the BlackRock list in the previous link provided you will come across a large number of medical companies
    , even AstraZeneca.

    OWNERSHIP IS NOT LITERAL IT IS SUBJECTIVE TO THE NUMBER OF SHARES OWNED. COMPRENDO?
     
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    When people say stupid things, I guess I assume they are also careless readers. And yes, yo comprendo muy bien-- I lived off of stock investments, for a number of years. You are the one who is making false claims, & intimations. The fact, is that institutional investors exist, which can own a stake in numerous companies, in any given industry. However, to imply that they are then calling the shots, at those companies, is blatantly false. I might as well say that I used to be one of Cisco Systems' owners (before everyone & their mother had heard of it).

    People who know about stocks, understand the concept that stockholders are "owners," but do not generally refer to them as such, because of the potential confusion that would cause. By "own," what is usually implied, is control of at least 51% of the company's stock; that individual or company, would then call the shots. When people who are familiar with investing, refer to the owners of a company's stock, they refer to them, not as "owners," but as "stockholders." As your source implies that one of the 2 companies which you claim "own everything," typically holds less than 10% of any company's stock (and your new figures, above, top out at 13.33%), they are not, then, controlling any of those companies, much less the entire "Big Pharma" industry, or the Media, writ large (or even any individual company). Your suggestion then, that they are pulling all the strings, throughout the world-- even if they do have some influence, with numerous companies-- is absurd.

    And yes, you still fail to grasp that
    you could purchase shares, in a Vanguard fund. Would you, then, run the world? The one legitimate point which you could have made-- but did not-- was that Vanguard, even if all its shares are actually owned by all the individual investors (both small & large) in its funds, does exercise proxy voting rights, over those shares. This gives them some influence but, again, as their share of any company is always a minority stake, they don't run or "own" any of the companies, in the manner of having a controlling interest, in them (as I'd just explained). So your original post had been beyond even a gross exaggeration.
     
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    Word salad.
    :applause::applause::applause::applause:
    Proportional ownership.
     
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    Yeah, I wonder. [sarcasm]
     
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    Yes. The left wing shills are never interested in genuine discussions, so it's a waste of time taking them seriously. They never research a topic themselves, they just parrot a fashionable line, snivel a lot, or just post whatever their Mother Hives tell them to.
     
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    So you actually have never even done your own homework. We already knew that.
     
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    What are talking about? Homework? Really?

    https://thelogicofscience.com/2015/02/02/what-does-it-actually-mean-to-do-your-homework/

    You obviously don’t have any evidence to back up your statements. Do you even know what kind of research the Lancet publishes in its various journals? I very much doubt it judging by your comments.
     

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