Martha McSally Refuses to Answer Fox News Question After Attacking CNN Reporter For Same Question

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  1. ronv

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    I blame Trump and the Republicans for both.
     
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    So you're small area of experience dictates all 12 million people here illegally?

    75% of working illegals use false or stolen ID's. Illegal but not undocumented
    Illegals claim multiple dependent children on tax refunds who don't even live with them...or even the US. Another felony (called fraud).


    And that is just the tip of the iceburg. If illegals are quite willing to break the law time and time again, what makes you think that they won't break the law and vote in our elections? Especially in places like California and NY who are sanctuary states.
     
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    Of course you do. Because people breaking the law hold no responsibility for their actions. Only those that try and punish them are the bad people.
     
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    A Google search would satisfy the curiosity.

    But you can also engage in a bit of theoretical analysis.

    Trump ordered every current and former employee to remain silent. The only people who testified directly defied that order.
     
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    And they get those ID's that are fake in the USA through a system that is explained to them before they leave their home nation since this is an organized activity. To claim a child on tax returns one must use a SS number if they falsify it then it is up to the IRS to catch them US citizens do it also and it is still fraud if the amount is over one hundred dollars.Yet there is no evidence that they vote for president if they did then Trump was elected by illegals..
     
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    McSally did earn that seat, just like McCain earned it. McCain got enough votes. McSally got enough votes. Same same, no difference.
     
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    First, they don't have just falsify it, they can steal it. As my previous link shows many stolen SSN's come from children. So they'll show up as valid SSN's. In any case, the IRS knows this happens....and they ignore it. The IRS commissioner even admitted that they ignore it.

    Bold: I'd really love to hear how you came about this conclusion....

    And again, there is no system in place that prevents illegals from voting. Citizenship is not checked. Something even Obama admitted in 2016. Which means there is no way to tell if an illegal voted or not. The only real way to find out is to check citizenship of those past elections. Yet that is not done and Dem States refuse to help in finding out. Why do you think that is?
     
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    Since you think that the illegals are voting then you will see who the winner is from all those votes from illegal aliens and Trump and the GOP won the majority of the offices in both federal and state elections..And with that result evidently according to you the illegals vote GOP since the known registered members of the GOP is smaller than those of the Democrats.
     
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    We were talking about how easily Republicans could call witnesses in the House impeachment process, not the ones the Democrats called. The ones they did interview really had nothing more than subjective opinion to offer. Matching opinions I might add. Now you don't think you can convict Trump based on all that testimony? Even if they say the same thing again?
     
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    Sondland testifying that the aid was withheld to pressure Ukraine into announcing an investigation, and idiot Bonespurs specifically mentioning the Bidens by name as targets of a proposed investigation while withholding the aid isn't enough to discredit the other fairytale justifications for withholding the aid?
     
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    Nobody is above the law with the possible exception of Joe Biden?
     
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    Perhaps you could tell us all what Joe Biden did that was worthy of investigation---and not this bullshit fairytale about "uh, err, he was after this honest guy Shokin who was investigating Hunter!" because Shokin was corrupt as Hell, and was not investigating Burisma or Biden.
     
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    --he also tried to hide what he'd done.

    Hardly the conduct of a "corruption fighter".
     
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    The most astonishing thing about this whole process is that after seeing all of it, start to end, there are still people who parrot the party line as Nancy approved it. Just watched Chris Wallace interview Senator Jeffries and they watched a clip of the signing of the Articles. Showed the jovial mood, the pens and he still tried to say it was a solemn event. He said they don't dislike Trump, no, no, he actually said that. How can anyone see people like that as credible? Democrats hate Trump, would celebrate if anything should happen to him.
     
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    See you believe that story and I question it. My best guess is that both Joe and Hunter were involved in the corruption in the Ukraine. If it was as rampant as claimed, and I don't doubt that it was, Hunter Biden was up to his gizzard in it. I believe Pop was as well. I don't know about Shokin but as you can see I don't trust the people from the Obama Administration and their story. I've seen how corruption contaminates everyone around it.
     
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    Let me channel my inner political leftist here . . . "What, and give up show business?" The Left's great problem is that the Trump economy is roaring and minorities have noticed that they are themselves living much better under Trump than they ever did under Obama and STILL all the Dem Party's leadership can present to the nation as potential Dem Party presidential nominee is a fun house barrel full . . . of . . . clowns. Hence the utterly politically partisan impeachment of Trump. It was either that or simply concede his re-election without even running a candidate against him.
     
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    No previous impeachment of a sitting president was by a strictly politically partisan vote. No other impeachment of a sitting president was made with charges that are neither High Crimes and nor Misdemeanors. All previous impeachments actually had real evidence related to identifiable crimes.
     
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    I watched the public testimony, and read the transcripts of the closed sessions.

    The most astonishing thing about this whole process is the **** thrown against the wall by the GOP hoping that the testimony and the documentary evidence is much ado about nothing.

    --and the new evidence only confirms what we already know. If you want to poopoo what Bonespurs did, be my guest, but it makes you look like nothing but a partisan who doesn't really grasp what our "presuhdint" has done.
     
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    The basis that you use to call it "partisan" is because the GOP placed party before country? That makes them magically credible in cartoon land?

    Look at the facts and law standing alone. When all you have left is completely fabricated "process arguments" that really don't exist in the law, you're plainly on the wrong end of the argument. That's what poor credibility looks like.
     
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    Uh....McSally was appointed after losing the election.

    Edit: I see you already recognized the error.
     
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    Not by acting like trump's whiny ass.
     
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    You raised the process which favored Democrats because you do not want to address the fact that trump ordered all current and former employees to keep their mouth shut.

    And he was already impeached with more yes votes than any President in history.

    But removing him is likely going to require the testimony of those folks that he has blocked from testifying.
     
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    This impeachment, just like all previous Impeachments, involved identifiable crimes (see the GAO report); this impeachment involved High Crimes and Misdemeanors (see the Impeachment of Donald John Trump); this impeachment involved bipartisan support (see Justin Amash).

    And this impeachment will involve new testimony before the Senate - just like all previous Impeachments.

    Your move Yugi-boy.
     

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