Mask Authoritarianism and the Criminals Responsible for It.

Start with a comprehensive review of the science complete with refutation and counterpoints such as in the following, draw your own conclusions about the science of surgical masks as airborne pathogen protection. But the science of surgical masks is not the topic of this thread.

Masks Don’t Work: A Review of Science Relevant to COVID-19 Social Policy | River Cities' Reader (rcreader.com)

So read as many studies and refutations, followups and video debates as one likes in this comprehensive chain that is accompanied by the newspaper's pledge of equal "air time."

"We pledge to publish all letters, guest commentaries, or studies refuting [Rancourt's] general premise that this mask-wearing culture and shaming could be more harmful than helpful."

The topic of this thread is a common sense approach that will be developed in my next posts and expose the actual results of Mask Authoritarianism and the Criminals Responsible for It.

 

Now to the actual topic, Mask Authoritarianism and the Criminals Responsible for It.

Regardless of science and studies that include controls and specific repeated procedures, the REALITY, RESULTS and CRIMES INVOLVED re what is being done with surgical masks in the general population is easy to understand applying nothing other than common sense.

A. So please join me in the following thought experiment:

1. Stand up from your chair.
2. Remove your pants, dress, skirt or kilt... provided you were wearing any.
3. Remove any underwear.
4. Take the underwear, wad it up and cram it into your mouth.
5. Pinch your nostrils closed and breathe through the underwear in your mouth for ten minutes or so.
6. Most importantly, repeat this experiment by approaching three strangers on the street willing to give you the underwear they are wearing (insert criminal disclaimer here), then cram it in your mouth, pinch your nose, and breathe through -that- underwear for ten minutes.

You have just experienced, via thought experiment and visualization, the practical reality of Mask Authoritarianism on human health.

For intelligent people, the preceding is all that is necessary to illustrate the reality of a population wearing and breathing through dirty surgical masks. For those intelligent who can't connect the dots, please let me know and I will offer more detailed examples and thought experiments until you GET IT.

B. Yes or no, do you think the people responsible for and advocating MASK AUTHORITARIANISM are aware of the reality of A. above? If you believe they are aware of it, do you believe that those people, governments, groups deserve to be CRIMINALLY PUNISHED for their gross crimes against public health and hygiene? Yes or No? Decide for yourself and please post your opinions with respect to this section B of the topic of this thread.

 

Yep masks don't work, that's why surgeons use them.

 

4/10, doesn't understand science, thinks wearing a mask is an affront their liberty, despite the fact a government's duty is to protect life.

 

yep, if I or a loved one ever get surgery, I will expect the doctors to wear a mask, I think most Trump supporters would do the same

 

I can't speak for the entire country, but I don't know anyone or have come in contact with anyone who has had the flu this year. I'm chalking it up to our masks and social distancing.

 

is that what Trump supporters think they are being asked to do, cram underwear in their mouths, no wonder they so upset... lol

 

Fake Anecdote re the thread topic.

"Yesterday I went to vote. I loaded up Rousseau, my emotional support beagle, and drove to the polling place. I stopped by McDonalds on the way and got 10 chicken tendies, a large fry and a Coke. I became a bit dismayed that one of the tendie sauce containers was cracked and had sauce on it, but eh, no reason to make a fuss. I scarfed down the greasy fries, tendies and the sweaty large Coke, tossed some of the food to Rousseau, who was frolicking around the car as he usually does.

Arriving at the polling place, I reached down in the floorboard for my favorite COVID Mask with "Bash the Fash" embroidery. I had bought it from Amazon in July. It is by far my favorite article of clothing, and I have kept it in my car at all times since getting it. The "Made in China" tag has torn off, but it's in pretty good shape otherwise.

Putting on my mask, I entered the polling places and noticed some NONCOMPLIANT MASK NONWEARERS, and felt visceral disgust combined with a bit of superiority, probably Drumptard Supporters or some other form of conspiracy theorists. I noticed some American Flag and other "message" masks on some people, and noticed that their masks were a bit long in the tooth. Wonder if they have a support beagle and love McDonalds tendies just like me? Nah, they probably can't afford good food and have to cook at home. Some of them had the gall to wear their masks incorrectly. What an ignorant Cult Trumptards are!"

 

Not topical. Did you have a topical response to add?

 

Not topical, do you have a topical response to add to the thread?

 

Not topical, do you have a topical response to add?

But will add, the reason surgeons wear masks is because they are in very close proximity to open, often GAPING wounds.

 

Not topical, do you have a topical response to add?

 

Sorry, it appears the thread topic is being ignored, so I will repost it:

Do you agree with all, most or none of A and B in my second post? If you agree, do you believe that MASK AUTHORITARIANS and those who advocatea MASK AUTHORITARIANISM here or elsewhere are KNOWINGLY damaging public health while destroying human and civil rights? or are they unknowing? If knowing do you believe that MASK AUTHORITARIANS or those who advocate for MASK AUTHORITARIANISM here or elsewhere are CRIMINALS deserving PUNISHMENT?

 

some learn the hard way

 

Not topical, do you have anything topical to post to the thread in your own words? The topic was clear and has been very clearly repeated.

 

Are you talking about people sharing dirty masks, like heroin addicts share dirty needles? As far as I am concerned, I really don’t care if you wear a mask or not. I’ll just keep my distance and make sure my mask is properly fitted.

Did you know that you can get disposable masks. Use them one time and throw them away. Or you can wash a cloth mask. Wear a clean one everyday.

 

No kidding.

Exactly.

That said, if one Stranger requested that I put their "underwear in my mouth", I would hope (with all my heart) it would be someone like Margot Robbie.



Subjecting myself to an authoritarian outrage (rivaling the Nazis Marching into Paris) should at least be enjoyable.

As far as the "Yes or No" question?

Well since this is the Opinion Section, here is my answer to the "Yes or No" Question:

The "premise" of the inquiry is so hideously flawed, that it doesn't require any answer (or comment) beyond the keystrokes required to type this sentence.

 

OK, the above is reasonably topical, though it doesn't address the topic questions specifically,

1. No, I'm not talking about people sharing masks specifically, but as a matter of common sense and even a basic knowledge of average public hygiene, that does in fact occur. IMO it is very frequent, maybe the same masks in a family car that stay there for months, maybe a mask tray near the door of the home, something like that. Feel free to disagree.

2. It's good that you don't care whether others wear a mask, so do you then believe that forced wearing of masks, in light of the scientific data in the first post to the thread, and the common sense claims in the second post to the thread, represents a form of MASK AUTHORITARIANISM, that those responsible for it are KNOWING, and therefore engaging in criminal behavior that should be punished as such? Or are they simply misguided or mistaken? Are they criminally culpable for MASK AUTHORITARIANISM?

3. We all know about disposable masks. Using those properly would be inconvenient and costly. So you tell us, what percentage of the population do you believe are using disposable surgical masks correctly (throwing them away or bleach laundering them after EVERY SINGLE USE? in essence discarding or laundering several masks daily... and what is your estimate of the time and $ expense of that behavior?) versus using surgical masks negligently and dangerously (keeping dirty masks in a car or house for days weeks or months)?

Background question informing the above, how often do you wash your sheets and towels in bleach? Clean your car with disinfectants? Disinfect your household surfaces, wash your hands in hot water with soap for at least 30 seconds per day? More importantly, how often do you believe the average person does those things? It's simple to gauge, just look into cars next to you in traffic, look at their hair, hands, clothing, children, pets, condition of their car generally, etc.

Do you honestly believe that any significant portion of the affected population is using disposable masks correctly? Or is it most likely that the thought experiment in A in my second post is more akin to what is actually going on? If so, does it result in significant public health danger? Are those responsible knowing and culpable?

 

(emphasis added to the above)

Yet you took the time to make a relatively long post and included a 12 y.o. type of gif instead of simply answering the topic? In light of the maturity level and reasonable conclusions drawn from the above, RE the thought experiment in A of my second post, I doubt many people would want to be within a city block of your underwear, and I'd wager none in fact, of either gender, ever are.

 

So I guess masks work.

 

Yeah, robbers, the KKK, ANTIFA and the Lone Ranger wear them too.

Anything topical to add to the thread? The topic is very clear and has been repeated, written on about an 8th grade level for clarity. Too hard to puzzle out though? Sorry bout that.

 

Huh?

More Personal Insults?

Not a good look.:smh:

It seems to me that you have a problem with (or are opposed to) the "mandatory mask" policies that many Trump Supporters have blamed on Dem. Governors in Blue States.

^Is that the point?

If so, then why not just start a thread bashing Dem. Governors (in Blue States)?

 

Not topical, do you have anything to add to the topic?

 

If you are correct we need to hold the criminals in the Trump administration accountable for their insistence masks are worthwhile and for promoting this falsehood: including White House Covid-19 Response Coordinator, Dr. Deborah Birx, Surgeon General Jerome Adams, and CDC Director Robert Redfield.

 

OK, that's topical. So you believe that members of the Trump Administration are culpable for spreading bad information about masks. I disagree, but that's a reasonable opinion. You specifically name Birx, Adams and Redfield, I'll assume Trump himself too, who else or is that all? What should be the level of culpability of them in your opinion, what should be the punishment meted out if any?