Mask Exemption Cards

China locked down 400,000 people over 18 cases. That’s what some of the nutty ones want here..draconian response..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-53216047

 

On the state level:

https://www.littler.com/publication...g-your-face-mask-duties-list-statewide-orders

On the local level:

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200622/more-states-cities-require-face-masks-in-public#:~:text=Major cities have instituted face,to wear them in public.

https://icma.org/blog-posts/enforcing-mask-protection-and-its-challenges

It only took me a few minutes to find and read these articles. Unless Google doesn't work on your device, this is the last time I'll do your homework for you.

 

Caurt cases based on what, exactly? If your city has mandated masks, and you get a citation for not wearing one, what will you cite as an argument against the municiple code's validity?

 

I live in a small town and po,ice on,y bother you if you screw up really bad. 15 9ver will not get you stopped unless it is a state trooper. 20 will get you a warning. The sheriff of my county has a policy that everyone is entitled to one mistake. Get caught the second time then he gets pretty tuff.

 

I call BS.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/oregon-whites-only-masks/

"The policy's exemption list was revised on June 24, 2020, to no longer include people of color. While it was accurate to say Lincoln County at one point issued requirements on masks that only pertained to white residents, that was no longer the case as of this report."

Meaning: some moron in this one Oregon county had the "brilliant" idea that blacks would feel targeted if they had to wear masks, but the idiotic idea lasted one week.

FYI, Lincoln County, OR is a string of beach towns, with a combined population of about 46,000. Not exactly a bastion of social policy and culture. Beautiful place, but not the bellwether of ideology or policy.

Much ado over petty bullshyte, but that's today's right for ya. Just saying.

 

I call BS on that as well.

As for businesses enforcing the law for the police: every small business owner has the right to refuse service based on what that business considers proper attire. "No shoes, no shirt -- no service" is probably posted in ever bar, restaurant, or retail store near any beach. They only need to post "no mask -- no service" to keep unmasked people out of their businesses.

 

It what way is a mask requirement a "China moment?"

 

No. It is a scam. End of story.

 

I'm not a fan of forcing people to do anything, but what's the alternative? Think about that for a bit. Also, read comment #13, which I think is well said.

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

 

How nice for you, but most of us don't live in Podunk, Iowa. I think I would like your county sheriff, though.

 

And I have to thank many people for not moving here and ruining what a nice place this is.

 

The ADA does not apply, because they false claim has no statistical backing. There is a provision in most state's mandatory mandate that states that masks do not have to be worn by those with raspatory ailments, and those that are subject to panic attacks. Most of these attacks are caused by claustrophobia. So, your workmate is justified in not wearing a mask. My wife has the same affliction. She has not left our house since the pandemic began. She also has COPD, and she is 75 years old. Since, we are both in the groups that have a greater risk for the disease, we are careful what we do. I have to venture into the public. To ensure that I do not take the infection home to my wife, I wear a mask in public, I do social distancing. I use had sanitizer when I get home, and after I take off the mask. The mask that I bought has filters that can be changed. I clean it after every trip, and I keep it in a sealed bag. If you do this, you do not have to worry about what your workmate does.

 

Unless your state has a law enforcing with penalties for not wearing a mask then your sheriff does not have the authority to do anything.

In Virginia, the Governor issued a Executive Order requiring everyone to wear masks inside public places, but even he stated that it was unenforceable. He is hoping that the state legislation would pass a law requiring masks, and include a fine for violators. Until the law is passed, the law can not be enforced by anyone. If it is passed, then they are not planning to have police enforce the law. It is supposed to be enforced by the Virginia health department. That agency does not currently have an ability to enforce anything. They are also tied up with dealing with COVID-19.

 

The concept is what I was talking about not those specific cards. I think their is a legitimate aspect to that.

 

Let me ask you, if this was an Ebola outbreak, do you think there would be a Constitutional authority to institute safety measures?

 

I think we would react differently if 55 Russians infantry divisions invaded from the pacific northwest thru Canada than if 5 Mexican Army battalions invaded thru El Paso.

C19 is not even close to Ebola. It’s like junior high baseball team vs the Tampa Bay Rays

Anymore extreme nutty examples you want to give ?

 

This all reminds me of the time when the seat belt laws came out.
All the silly excuses why not to put a seat belt on.
Today nobody is bitching and just a few stupid drive without.

So, whats the big deal about a mask ?

 

Don’t wanna wear it. No other reason needed.

Driving is a licensed (thus highly regulated) activity, walking down the street is not. Poor analogy.

Stop giving away my choice for me, I’m not trying to take away your ability to mask up.

 

The Constitutional authority for war against Russians would be the same for Mexico.
The Constitutional authority is exactly the same for Covid as it would be for Ebola.

 

Having businesses require shirts and shoes has been an accepted rule for 100 years. Adding a tie or jacket or mask
is not different. You can leave the business or you can sit down on the floor and whine about a mask like a two year old having a tantrum. It's up to you.

 

Only a foolish person would react the same in either example. You react to the situation. If you cut your finger you deal with it at home, if you cut off your hand you go to the hospital.

 

Im fine with the business making the requirement, not the govt.

You don’t like bring around unmasked people in public you can stay home, 100% your choice.

 

Which doesn't change the Constitutional authority issue. It's the same for Covid as it would be for Ebola.

 

You can follow government rules or you can sit down and have a temper tantrum like a five year old. Your choice.

 

So flex as much power as you can regardless of the need...

That’s your ideal of govt, it’s my ideal of tyranny. Perhaps next time we have a bad flu season we can have a dusk to dawn curfew nationwide.

Amazing to watch people willing give away their freedom they were gifted..