Massive Fires In Saudi Arabia - Aramco Oil Facilities Hit By Drones

We have had more than 40 years of ping pong threats between Israel and Iran. Are the Houthis controlling Iran now?

 

Because that's what the Saudis have been saying since the mid 1980s.

 

Iran is pulling the strings of hamas, hezbo and the houthis in Hormuz. So many H's. They're all from "H"ell.

 

Iran is controlling the houthis just like Iran controls hamas and hezbo.

 

I'm not pro Russian, I'm pro 'truth'. I despise liars and hypocrites.

As for Iran, if it stopped its threats to Israel, things would calm down. I have no sympathy with them on wanting to take back Jerusalem or anything else they claim, than I do with the Palestinians and Arabs. This doesn't mean I support Netanyahu's inhumanity or that of the Zionists, only that it would be grossly unfair for the Palestinians to have the right of return and become a majority as they wish, without every other ethnicity not being given the same right.

Tens of millions of people had been displaced in the last century, so why should the Palestinians get the right of return and not them?

 

Only Jews have the right of return.

 

Poor Houthis, I really feel sorry for them and the people of Yemen. I wish Iran would have helped them more than it has. This incident is complicated. Regardless of what actually happened, its best for everyone to ultimately go with what the Houthis have said about it.

 

The Houthis have been attacking KSA since 2012.. How many Yemeni refugees are in Iran?

 

As long as you are and remain pro truth, I am happy. In the meantime, Iran is not in Syria to take back land for the Palestinians.

 

They were certainly a threat to KSA while they held Kuwait. I suppose a case could be made for eliminating Saddam, but the invasion of Iraq and the installation of an Iran dominated government was, IMO, incredibly stupid - especially for a government that is now willing to go to war over the "Persian Crescent" it has helped to create.

That is unless the plan is to engage in endless warfare in the ME. Which I suppose is a brilliant plan if you own stock in Raytheon et al.

 

I have not claimed Israel was behind the attack, as you said there is no proof. It is my opinion though that it is a real possibility, as they have the most to gain from a resulting war. So far as the Houthis, they do not posses the equipment or know how to pull this off. Do you think these refineries were unprotected? This attack would need to be done with a combination of drones and cruise missiles that the Houthis do not have, not to mention the radar jamming that would have been necessary to do this successfully. There is also the possibility that the Saudis did it themselves, as they have as much incentive as the Israelis to have the US involved in war with the Iranians. So far as the Iranians, it is doubtful they would do something of this scale which would put them at risk of full scale war and regime change with the US. It just does not make sense.

 

The fact is that if there were alternative fuel sources or technology that eliminated the need for oil, none of these wars would ever reach the scale they reach in these times and might even cease to exist. In cases where the value of natural resources of warring nations is in inconceivably abundance, wars could almost go on forever as long as access remains for profitability. Keeping in mind that the powerful and wealthy have no regard for human life, pouring pennies into military funding is nothing compared to the billions of potential dollars of profit. It takes huge amounts of money to stage a war and it is not uncommon for the powerful and wealthy behind a nation's governance to literally fund and fuel both sides and the only losers are those doing battle.

We said it in 2001, we said it in 2015 and we can keep on saying it, 'it's all about the oil'.

 

Contrary to what you think, I believe Iran made the right calculation on what to do in this case. It sent the message it wanted, has enough 'plausible deniability' and war with Iran isn't anything that would be taken lightly by any side. I doubt we will see such a war but lets see....

 

We don't need Russia's resources, but without them Soros and the Washington ideologues cannot establish their liberal 'one world order'. The liberal part is another point of contention with Russia.

If you're so intent on the Palestinians being given back Israel, then why not go back further to the Byzantine Empire, and give it back to the tens of millions of Christians that were forced to leave these past 1000 plus years?

Where do you start Margot, and where does it end?

 

They weren't a threat when Saddam invaded Kuwait either. KSA had already forgiven his OPEC debt.

 

Do you actually believe in that world order nonsense? LOLOL

The Palestinians are descended from Jewish farmers who never left.

 

Probably not, but they do want Jerusalem - more than likely for religious reasons, otherwise why would they keep threatening Israel?

 

It is a long story, but Iran's position is that the issue of Palestine isn't one for Iran to be involved with militarily.

 

Saddam was very aggressive and very unpredictable. That is why the KSA allowed the US military to deploy in the KSA. Was it smart for the US to go to war to expel Iraq from Kuwait?
I do not think it was.

 

Either you have never heard George Soros speak, or you're one of his prodigies. You'll find his Open Society Foundation and the NGO's he supports wherever there's a protest - like for instance in Hong Kong.

Correction: It's the Orthodox Christian Palestinians who are descended from Jewish farmers who never left, as well as the Christian Syrians.

 

Not according to their DNA.

meanwhile,

Saudi Arabia dramatically changing its oil exports to ...
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/15/saudi-arabia-dramatically-changing-its-oil-exports-to...
Aug 15, 2019 · Saudi Arabia's crude shipments to China have doubled in the span of a year. During the same period, its oil exports to the U.S. have dropped by nearly two-thirds. The numbers signal a …

 

Every time Iran steps up their aggression we get these false flag claims. They are BS and eventually Iran is going to step on their dick and get bitch slapped.

 

Historically the oil business hates a war zone.. That's why it was so idiotic for Bush's neocon nincompoops to claim it was for Iraqi oil..

 

The JCPOA was a JOKE.

 

I did not know the topic had been changed to Iraq.... Iraq and Kuwait were 20 years ago, there is a whole new regime running Saudi Arabia, and they have a whole new agenda....