Massive Fires In Saudi Arabia - Aramco Oil Facilities Hit By Drones

1. Saudis Boost Security Measures After Oil Tanker Attacks ...
   https://oilprice.com/.../Saudis-Boost-Security-Measures-After-Oil-Tanker-Attacks.html
   Jul 01, 2019 · Saudi Energy Minister al-Falih said that his nation is aiming to boost security measures after last month’s oil tanker attacks
   
   • Author: Tsvetana Paraskova
2. Oil shippers boost security after attacks on tankers in Gulf
   https://news.yahoo.com/oil-shippers-boost-security-mysterious-061147967.html
   Jun 20, 2019 · FILE - In this Thursday, June 13, 2019 file photo, an oil tanker is on fire in the sea of Oman. A series of attacks on oil tankers near the Persian Gulf has ratcheted up tensions between the U.S. and Iran -- and raised fears over the safety of one of Asia’s most vital energy trade routes, where about a fifth of the world’s oil passes through its narrowest at the Strait of Hormuz.
   
   • Author: AYA BATRAWY

 

Attacks to Raise Security, Insurance Costs for Persian ...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/attacks-to-raise-security-insurance-costs-for-persian...
Recent attacks on Saudi Arabian oil tankers and pipelines are set to increase the cost of insuring and securing crude shipments in the Persian Gulf region, added expenses that will likely lead to

 

Where are we? According to Iran they were not involved in sabotaging oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz or had anything to do with the bombing of SA's oil facilities. If you believe Iran's regime then all Iran has done since Trump canceled the agreement is threaten the US with war.

 

We are very sorry that you guys are the "front line" in the fight against Iran and their Globalist partners.

They are trying to sink the US and SA oil industry, while at the same time allowing Iran to build that industry to gain power. Obama trying to tank the US oil industry, which can be clearly seen in oil output from 2015-2016/2017. Lets not forget that Obama takes credit for the fracking boom even though he fought it every step of the way, now the US is SKYROCKETING because Trump hanged course.

This as well as their constant narrative about how "Saudi Arabia is evil and Iran is good" is simply too obvious to not look at and see as a grand ploy.

While I will not support US troops being used to attack Iran, we support SA in their effort to keep away such damaging and violent ideologies. Sadly, our best move going forward is to "beef up defenses" and continue to pressure Iran into making mistakes. Yes, that means SA is going to take the brunt of these mistakes and for that, we Americans share our sympathy/empathy. But while Democrats are ok starting wars like no other, any single thing Trump does is acted upon like he is Hitler.

This hypocrisy is also pushing people away from Progressives/Communists, so we just need to continue to do the same thing we are doing and let people see their hatred for what it is.

Hopefully the new sanctions on Iran will completely destroy their economy, forcing them to stop funding Hamas, Houthis and plenty else.

I think the best way to find peace in the Middle East is to continue to push Israel and Saudi Arabia together, showing them they have similar goals. Man, it will be SOOOO awesome if this happens. My fiance and I have talked about how many Muslim lead cities we would love to go vacation to, getting to see such a different culture.

From what I see, more and more Saudi's are "accepting" our differences and not allowing these differences to create hatred. If this continues, global tourism to the ME is going to be awesome!!!!!!!

 

You ignore the reason why no one is blocking the Strait.

 

Is this meant to be a serious post or you just trying to be sarcastic?

 

Presidents have little to do with oil production. US producers invested and went into overdrive because the ppb was HIGH.. and they could make some money. Domestic producers had little to no experience with fracking. The US oil industry is not that clever, up to date, well-integrated etc. Most US wells pump less than 50 barrels a day.. There are NO economies of scale or downstream strategies.



The Saudis and the Americans who have lived and worked there since the 1940s have long ago embraced both our differences and our similarities. We were indoctrinated by age six that we were Americans and our behavior reflected on our country. .. but remember those early oil men were educated..most were veterans from WW2 and all were patriots.. Not like Bush or idiot Trump.

 

Iran didn't sabotage oil tankers.. They seized them. Where have you been?

 

See look, you are trying to spread the false information right there! Are you doing it on purpose because you are Progressive/Communist that hates Trump? Or do you honestly not know what has happened since you decided to stop looking at your graph?

This is the real graph...

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&id=B31B6F59A94B72BB9AC1A01BA09CC094141F02B8&thid=OIP.sqkKp2stX9BioAFxiJKguwHaEv&mediaurl=https://media.ycharts.com/charts/69ac0bea97b0d938a5f17532051d3ea3.png&exph=371&expw=580&q=US+oi+production&selectedindex=1&ajaxhist=0&vt=0&eim=1,2,6

You can see, after the fracking boom, Obama put in policies that DRASTICALLY reduced American oil. You are trying to cherry pick the graph, by having it end in August of 2016, right where I said it began to drop.

Then, when Trump's policies took effect, it began to skyrocket again.

Your graph has it stopped at less than 10 million barrels as "production hits 44 year high"

But you completely ignore the last two years, where oil production has spiked to 12.5 millions barrels.

You are purposefully spreading false information through cherry picked statistics.

Shame on you

 

No evidence at all that they wanted to build a bomb. As a signee of the NNPT they were legally entitled to a domestic nuclear energy program. Ironically, the JCPOA was a comprehensive treaty that allowed international monitoring and could have been renegotiated at a later time in good faith.

By tearing up the treaty, the US has made it far more likely that Iran will enrich uranium beyond percentages agreed to in the JCPOA and has put the US and the world on the path to another needless and disastrous ME war that never needed to be.

Of course the US can never admit it's stupidity and illegality so it makes baseless accusations and threats to try and make a case for war - which really only benefits the profits of US armament industry who see great profits in endless wars od death and destruction.

 

Wow ....

You literally go around ignoring information as you spread a random story to people.

Shame on you, that is a truly disgusting thing you are doing.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...abotaged-ships-uae-coast-190513055332524.html

 

I'm not a communist or a progressive. I am not even a democrat.. but I do understand the oil business quite well. Of course the oil business spiked.

A lot happened in the US oil business during the Obama years. The ppb went up so investors were interested again.. They learned fracking after many sloppy starts.. Colleges across the US were enrolling students seeking degrees in chemical engineering or petroleum engineering for the first time in 40 years..

You're not alone, you know.. You don't know the first thing about the oil business, but you have strong opinions.. That's very American in 2019..

 

BS

You posted a graph from three years ago to spread something that is completely untrue.

And then like normal, instead of talking you try to use a personal insult.

Yup, sounds just like the Progressives/Communists you talk to online!

You guys do see that the tactic doesn't work right?

You call me a name, but I show people the statistics that prove you are wrong. But of course you go on to say "I have so much experience and you are a dumb American!"

You sure showed me!

 

https://www.apnews.com/d67714ab8ac344a3b3af19cca1c20192

Tankers struck near Strait of Hormuz; US blames Iran

Iran denied being involved in the attacks last month and its foreign minister questioned the timing of Thursday’s incidents, given that Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was meeting Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in Tehran.

 

Thanks. I'd forgotten that.

The U.S. Navy rushed to assist the stricken vessels in the Gulf of Oman off the coast of Iran, including one that was set ablaze. The ships’ operators offered no immediate explanation on who or what caused the damage against the Norwegian-owned MT Front Altair and the Japanese-owned Kokuka Courageous. Each was loaded with petroleum products, and the Front Altair burned for hours, sending up a column of thick, black smoke.

 

OK.. you don't like the graph so look at rig count. Its been higher since Obama took office that it was in the previous 40 years.

 

Margot you're forgetting that it was the Iranian tanker that was seized first at Gibraltar.

 

That was after Iran has seized to and attacked and set fire to another.

 

Nothing like false flag attacks to start a war. Now who would want a war with Iran?

 

The Iranian regime is crazy and looking for Armageddon.

1. British tankers seized by Iran | World | News | Express.co.uk
   https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1155750/british-tanker-seized-iran-strait-of...
   Jul 20, 2019 · British tankers seized by Iran BRITAIN was heading for a military showdown with Iran last night after its Revolutionary Guard seized two UK-flagged oil tankers in the Gulf in a few hours.
   
   • Author: John Ingham And Liz Perkins
2. Report: Iran Seizes Two British Tankers in As Many Hours
   https://www.westernjournal.com/report-iran-seizes-two-british-tankers-many-hours
   Jul 20, 2019 · Iran seized two British tankers on Friday in an incident that has escalated tensions in the Persian Gulf region.. The Stena Impero, a British-owned tanker that flies a British flag, was seized and remained in Iranian hands as of Friday. Another British-owned tanker, the Mesdar, which was flying a Liberian flag, was also seized.
   
   • Author: Jack Davis

 

Was that another one of our 'highly likely' assumptions with no proof of course? We've been having a lot of those these past years.

(Sing to the tune of; 'Spring is Busting Out All Over'.)

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War is busting out all over,
from China to the Middle Sea.
It's here and there, and everywhere
as we shall shortly see.

Now chaos is my middle name,
which I am proud to say,
and for the ones not in the know
it's called the American way.. Jeannette




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No problem Margot2.

 

This is an excellent interview with Javid Zarif. He speaks about the US breaking of the UN nuclear agreement with Iran, why the people of Yemen attacked the Sauds oil and what the US is doing to Iran. With this attack on Saudi Oil which there appears to be no evidence was done by Iran, the US through Trump have put sanctions on the Iranian bank, according to Zarif these sanctions are such that it would be almost impossible for Trump or anyone who came after him to remove them....and what do these sanctions do? They stop Iran being able to import medicine and food. It is an attack by the US on the sick and poor in Iran. I remember noticing a couple of days ago that the US in Venezuela is now trying to enforce sanctions on the free food the Venezuelan Government gives to its poor.

He also speaks about what the Saud's helped by the US (and Britain) have done to the people of Yemen. He suggests 100,000 have been killed. I think this is a very low number. People were saying 50,000 dead after about 6 months and it has generally stayed at that..so Zarif has just doubled it. My guess would be that it is at least 1,000,000, dead now and not just through the bombing but the refusal to allow them in water treatment resulting in the the cholera epidemic which he says has now hit 3 and a half million people - as well of course as the starvation by the Saud's siege aided and abetted by the United States of America and the United Kingdom.

Having heard my whole life how we in the West were supposed to be people with humanity who protected people from those who did not, these actions of the United States, frankly seem the lowest of the low. When the US Government is putting in actions to kill the sick, to kill women and children and the old which these activities without question are and when the only country we know who has acted badly is the US in its failing to live up to its part of a UN deal and further by bullying of others to also act in this illegal way, then all morality is loss and no humanity remains in any country who acts in this way or supports same.

 

Thanks for posting the interview. A good interview and covered a lot of bases.

There are, however, other comments and initiatives being floated by Rouhani and Zarif which I consider (to put it mildly) problematic. The situation Iran faces is clear and there is no need for Iran to offer concessions and make suggestions publicly to a side that is clearly on its own path. Especially when the European governments aren't able or willing to do anything useful either. In this regard, I personally oppose the French proposal (which, in any case, the US has in deed rejected) as it is simply a vehicle to get Iran to a negotiating table for Iran to then be forced to accept conditions it should not accept.

The Houthis have done Iran a major favor, if their message isn't diluted by ill advised initiatives and actions which will merely embolden others to pursue the wrong path they have been pursuing. And to get more people on their side. The truth is that the only time the Europeans, as well as the Arab states, show any desire for compromise is when they see that there isn't any more room to push Iran and yet they see their own interests can be seriously jeopardized if they allow things to heat up more. In that dynamic, Iran doesn't need to reduce the heat but keep it on. Otherwise, if Iran is itself scared of getting caught by the heat, it too should get out of the kitchen and stop the pretense of standing up to the US.

My rant, incidentally, reflects not anything in this interview but reports surfacing in Iran about the Rouhani government saying and doing things which appear to be in conflict with their legal mandate based in Iran. Some of what I have heard is troubling to me and knowing how our government works, I find them actions which appear to be following a script written outside of Iran. And these kind of scripts always end up doing more damage than any good.

 

https://www.spglobal.com/platts/en/...iraqi-crude-in-wake-of-recent-attacks-sources
Saudi Arabia looking to buy Iraqi crude in wake of recent attacks: sources