Mattis Takes Swipe At Trump: 'I Earned My Spurs On The Battlefield'

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I guess you're a general just like Trump :)
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just remember something, wasn't Hunter Biden kicked out of the U.S.Navy ?

    That's right, the entire Biden family are coke heads just like Bill and Hillary were.
     
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    It is amazing he already knows what units are going and there.
     
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    No, never got beyond the rank of Sergeant.

    But had OJT in South Vietnam and in Mattis book his response on how he wanted capture or kill OBL in Tora Bora, Afghanistan were exactly what I would have done.

    I actually know something about infantry tactics and how to use a blocking force on the battlefield.

    Obvious General Tommy Frank didn't.

    What is kinda scary today, there are no longer any officers or enlisted men in the U.S.military who have actually fought in a high intensity war.

    The last American general with that experience and has led American troops into combat was Gen.Schwarzkopf.
     
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    Alot.
     
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    You brought up Vietnam and how Democrats reacted to a multi-decade long war from 40 years ago as an effort to deflect from trump's unilateral decision one week ago.
     
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    Which one is the "true" conservative?
     
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    Well the last high intensity war was Vietnam and the average age of of Vietnam Vets is 72. That is even too old to be a general. Ideally it would be good to have majors and colonels with high intensity war experience. But even better would be to have master sergeants, gunnery sergents, chief petty officers.


    I was only a buck sergeant in Vietnam.
     
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    Do you have any evidence to support the implication that Biden faked an injury to avoid service?
     
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    Eisenhower, Marshall and Macarthur lead from the War Room. Only Captain Kirk lead the way.
     
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    At any time while in-country did you ever take some new butter bar aside and tell him..."Sir, I don't think you really don't want to do that."
     
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    I was AirForce so I only had two combat experiences but I had to do that State side. An Avionics new Second Louie right out of OTS was trying to tell me just to wire in a loose TACAN antennae instead of "wasting time" replacing it during an ORI. I had to tell him no YOU do not want to put my pilot in danger just to get a good grade for an ORI. At that time each flightline Avionics guy had two or three aircraft assigned to us so the pilots were my pilots not the Liuetenants'.
     
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    Read the link below. You people elected a draft dodger as President (Clinton) and a draft dodger as Vice President (Biden). Then you have the nerve to claim Trump is dishonorable for dodging the draft. The galling thing is in this very forum liberals praise Jane Fonda for providing aid to the enemy during the Vietnam war and then bash Trump for avoiding military service during this war. TDS?

    https://www.insidesources.com/joe-b...s-a-lot-like-donald-trumps-do-democrats-care/
     
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    Ron or Rand Paul IMHO.
     
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    Just pointing out that libs were once against senseless wars. Now you are for them.
     
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    RE: Tommy Frank

    Didn't understand or was told not to?
     
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    Excuse, I know I was only a Defense contractor, but I would never tell any combat veteran in the past few wars, their fire-fights were not high intensity.
     
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    Good question.

    Mattis doesn't say in his book.

    But back in 2001/2002 my sources were saying it was JAG officers who prevented the capture or killing OBL before he escaped into Pakistan.
     
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    Then don't.

    It's not the fire fights but the war in general and the battle that was actually happening around you.

    In Vietnam depending when and where you were sometimes it was low intensity while other times it was high intensity as it was on some atoll in the Central Pacific or in some jungle in the Southwestern Pacific during WW ll or the battle of Hue which was just as intensive as the Germans and Soviets battle for Stalingrad.

    After going on my first two operations with 1/26 (Operations Defiance Stand, Operation Bold Pursuit) I sat on Hill 55 for six weeks, nothing really much was happening in the Rocket Belt around DaNang. I wanted to get outside of the wire.
     
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    I don't have to prove a negative. It's on you to prove she told the truth.
     
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    No, the burden of proof is on he who makes the accusation!
     
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    As I said I only experienced combat two times. 99.5 percent of my time was like you siting on that hill. My first time was a rocket attack, Soviet Russian made Katyusha's of course given to the Cong. I was in a teventment working on a F-100 Hun, those missed me, over in seconds just a swhoosh and boom-bang. Second time 80mm mortar attack. Heard the tube go off, was micro seconds slow in hitting the ground, three of us in a bloody pile, guy left of me dead. Five or six more then it was over in seconds nothing more than the sirens telling us we were under attack. No **** Sherlocks what was their first clue? Again over in seconds.

    I was not armed but what was I going to fire at the sound of where the tube pop came from.

    Hey Apachereat! ,!!! 50 year later do you also still remember the sound of a mortar tube going off?? Or the whoosh of a Katyusha rocket ?? ?
     
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    It's not the fire fights but the war in general and the battle that was actually happening around you.
    No, to say our soldiers today are not as brave as in previous wars is BS !!!!
     
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    Another US General puts down Trump!!!!

    https://www.npr.org/2019/10/19/7715...licy-gen-petraeus-calls-withdrawal-a-betrayal
    Petraeus told NPR the withdrawal of American forces has turned what was a stable area in Syria, where more than 10,000 Kurdish-led forces had been killed in the fight against ISIS, into "a scramble."
     
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