McCarthy To Open Capitol To The Public After GOP Takes Over In January

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  1. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do we need to have god to get from there to here? Who created god?
     
  2. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what I said was true, you're now trying to move the goal post, too late
     
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  3. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    You have reached the eternal conundrum.

    As for me personally? I do believe in eternity. I believe this human existence of ours is simply One step along a pathway that never ends.

    Every birth is a death somewhere and every death is a birth somewhere else.

    I don't believe it's even possible to conceive of what nothing is. If we simply die and become nothing even nothing is something.
     
  4. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    I noticed you were completely unable to answer the question so before I let you have your way and have the last word because I'm sick and tired of running around in circles posting the same exact thing to you over and over for the last 12 hours or better....

    Tell me what I posted that is misinformation.

    You have posted misinformation and I was able to very specifically point out why that is.

    Now see if you can take a stab at doing the same.
     
  5. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you keep posting misinformation and blaming me for it, why?

    "You have posted misinformation and I was able to very specifically point out why that is."

    no you have not... you posted misinformation about what I said
     
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  6. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    You accused me of posting misinformation yet you are unable to clarify any example of it.

    What you did is posted misinformation or at the very least dishonesty by way of omission.... Because I have clearly pointed out to you now several times the missing information that you keep pretending doesn't exist.

    So I'm going to ask you one more time before you join my list.... Please be very specific and tell me what misinformation I have posted.
     
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  7. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're the one accusing me of posting misinformation, and yet you are unable to clarify any example of it.

    oh please, put me on your list, lol
     
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  8. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    I'll try this one more time just to confirm that you firmly belong on the list.

    Are you or are you not aware, that the Biden administration's attempt to mandate that employers must either test employees once a week or that the employees MUST get the vaccine...


    Would have applied to private employers of two kinds.... Those employers with a government contract and also those with no government contract.

    It really is a very simple yes or no question but I'm sure you'll come up with some excuse not to give a solid answer.

    Your post are becoming good for entertainment purposes only but they do become redundant and boring
     
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    What else does your crystal ball show.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's interesting when they talk about Nietzsche's "God is dead quote", as if it's some kind of joyful statement that bolsters their atheism.

    That statement was, in reality, a lament from Nietzsche, who realized that people turning their backs on God would be replaced in the worship of nihilism.

    Looking at the modern left, I'm glad he's not here to see that he was right.
     
  11. XXJefferson#51

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    All this from an article about reopening our nations Capitol to the general public…
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you ever thought about considering the way you reply to others around here?

    LOL

    Do me on the list too
    Please

    And to clarify, you are the one that accused another of misinformation — they are asking you to provide evidence that what they said was misinformation. You asking them to provide you evidence of your misinformation is the post itself.
     
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  13. FatBack

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    Well since you told me I was on your list I'm unsure how we're having this conversation but...

    Since you want to butt in and interject yourself... At least have a clue what the conversations about.

    He stated that Biden was only trying to force the mandate for vaccines on employers if they had a government contract.

    I simply corrected them and told him the fact that Biden was trying to force it on all private employers.

    Maybe you can do what he did not and try to point out anything I said that's misinformation. Since you want to put his shoes on and all.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have already explained to you that I remove people pretty regularly to give them a change to redeem themselves, few do.

    It sucks doesn’t it?
    But I have sources!

    Which is fairly accurate. They were wanting individuals not vaccinated to not be allowed on federal contracted sites.

    That is incorrect — the Biden administration was pushing for a test or shot policy. They were not mandated to take the vaccine but they would have had to have frequent swabs for employers over 100 people. This rule was under OSHA who withdrew its emergency temporary standard (ETS) after a SCOTUS loss.

    https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily...est-regulation-to-be-withdrawn-by-bidens-osha

    So technically, there was not a vaccine mandate. It was an option.

    Done and done.
     
  15. FatBack

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    Try following the conversation, I stated that multiple times.

    So being redundant, I'll explain it one more time for your benefit.....

    By attempted to mandate that employers must test all unvaxxed on a weekly basis OR employees MUST be vaxxed...... They well knew what they were attempting.

    You tell me what employer of a hundred or more employees is going to pay to test all of their un vaccinated employees once a week?

    So he was attempting to force employers to do his dirty Work.

    Fortunately for people who do not like living under the government's thumb, the court struck it down as unconstitutional.

    So while people like you can claim that he technically was not trying to enforce a mandate the reality is that's exactly what he was doing.

    Because no employer is going to eat the cost of weekly testing for all of their employees.

    You know it and I know It and anyone with a little bit of common Sense should know it.

    Now is there anything else you'd like to explain to me that I've already explained multiple times?

    And again I will point out..... This applied to private employers without government contracts as well.

    A pure dictator would be fascist move.
     
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    We ate the cost of testing our employees and several other organizations that we partner with did the same, we operate in an area with very low vaccination participation though. Several large organizations were already doing regular swabs, temperature checks at all entrances…

    It still was not a vaccine mandate and even if you really deeply believe that it was the facts don’t really agree

    The vaccine mandate was only for government contracts, the jab or test rules were for companies with 100 or more employees

    But I am sure everyone should listen to your acclaimed business acumen as I am sure you are a high powered executive that commonly has to make such decisions.
     
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    You sure it was Biden and not insurance companies? Id like to see a link that gives you reason to blame Biden and not private industry themselves for following their own guidelines that typically were more strict then anything the government recommended. For instance, no one forced me to get a vaccine to remain employed, so anecdotally you are already just plain wrong. I have a feeling your employer never forced you to either.

    I heard that Biden was just following the same sources that Trump listened to, Trump gets a pass, so you can just blame Biden is what this sounds like.
    It sounds like you need this win in order to label the left authoritarian, when in fact the right proves themselves as the true fascists on a daily basis. The right actually passes authoritarian policy in the states they control.
     
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    Lol @ your last paragraph. But I'm sure you are!

    You can be anything you want on the internet, isn't it great?

    Aside from your burning desire that you seem unable to resist to try to pretend like I'm not qualified to speak on topics.... I'm making a common sense observation and others can see that .

    Common sense SHOULD tell you the ultimatum the idiot attempted to mandate upon private businesses was designed to essentially coerce private employers to force their employees to be vaccinated because anyone who actually runs a business would know that no business is going to sit there and keep eating that cost week after week after week.

    And your personal anecdotes fail to impress or convince me.

    It's a good thing that the courts did not agree with your opinion or with the would be dictators attempt to force people.

    Now you can go ahead and have the last word because I'm done beating this horse that I've already beat with someone else.
     
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    Democrats absolutely tries to force mandates on private employers, the dem revisionist history is interesting.
     
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    So very true. The left feigns ignorance when it suits them. The intention of Brandon’s mandates were clear…it was an attack on those who chose not to be vaxxed. It was the single most authoritarian thing we have had attempted by a president in my lifetime.
     
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    Fortunately for the taxpayers and the employers the courts have repeatedly slapped Biden down.

    If they think that they're fooling anyone by trying to pretend that the ultimatum was anything less than a mandate, they are sadly mistaken because those of us who have common sense can clearly see what it was.
     
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    Yup. The courts repeatedly turn presidents down, including Trump, Obama, etc, all the way down the line. They seem to be the only 3rd part of government to keep political leanings out of it as much as possible.

    The Louisiana Purchase was about as unconstitutional as you could get at the time. Are we glad or no?

    I would like Congress to grow some balls and put the president, regardless of party, back in the, (1/3 and only 1/3,) constitutional box.
     
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  23. XXJefferson#51

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    Well said and right on. Biden is far more authoritarian than even Johnson and Obama.
     
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    he is just preparing for the 2024 tours
     
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    All of that is irrelevant however, the fact is there was no vaccine mandate for private employers unless those workers worked on federal projects.
     

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