Meet the KGB Spies Who Invented Fake News

Discussion in 'Music, TV, Movies & other Media' started by Durandal, Dec 2, 2018.

  1. Hadrian's Hammer

    Hadrian's Hammer Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2018
    Messages:
    518
    Likes Received:
    273
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Interesting! Fits right in to the Alexandr Dugin doctrine.
    The Most Dangerous Philosopher in the World
     
    Durandal likes this.
  2. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,681
    Likes Received:
    27,214
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    On Page 367 of the first edition of the book, Dugin explains:

    “It is especially important to introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics…”

    Well, that lays things out quite plainly! I also see some useful links in there.

    Aleksandr Dugin’s Foundations of Geopolitics
    http://www.4pt.su/en/content/aleksandr-dugin’s-foundations-geopolitics

    Основы геополитики
    http://www.e-reading.club/book.php?book=20827
     
  3. Hadrian's Hammer

    Hadrian's Hammer Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2018
    Messages:
    518
    Likes Received:
    273
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Yep, the Russian game plan to a "T", people need to get informed, apply logic and open their eyes.
     
  4. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,681
    Likes Received:
    27,214
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yep. It's very hard when MAGA is constantly denying it himself, leading many Americans to follow suit. They continue to make an internal political matter of what is, in fact, a matter of national security, being a sustained attack by a hostile foreign power.
     
    Hadrian's Hammer likes this.
  5. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    58,626
    Likes Received:
    4,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    In the case of the Russian dossier, was the FBI really the useful idiots or were they instead willing partners?
     
    Merwen and Antiduopolist like this.
  6. Observing

    Observing Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2016
    Messages:
    3,321
    Likes Received:
    910
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I wonder what they considered voice of america and radio free europe.
     
    Antiduopolist likes this.
  7. zalekbloom

    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2016
    Messages:
    3,622
    Likes Received:
    2,740
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Both sides, the US and Russia try to create fake news for their own advantage. The only difference is what will happen when a source of the fake news is discovered.

    In the US the journalist who creates fake news will be fired from work.

    In Russia a journalist who will discover a fake news source will be fired or he will commit a suicide.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
     
  8. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2013
    Messages:
    47,624
    Likes Received:
    48,666
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So . . . pretty much like the Left inclusively pushing the huge lie from 2008 onward that this was a racism infested nation, which in turn became the huge propaganda farce of Trayvon versus Brown Hispanic George Zimmerman and then later on the burning of Ferguson over the leftist lie of Hands up, don't shoot and all that crap pushed to the hilt by Barack Obama.
     
    Last edited: Dec 26, 2018
    Thought Criminal likes this.
  9. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2016
    Messages:
    24,354
    Likes Received:
    10,858
    Trophy Points:
    113
    :above: Thread win.
     
    scarlet witch likes this.
  10. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2016
    Messages:
    24,354
    Likes Received:
    10,858
    Trophy Points:
    113
  11. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2016
    Messages:
    24,354
    Likes Received:
    10,858
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Orange Man/Russian Man = Bad

    :eek:

    Evidence of collusion, or even a single vote being changed as the result of free expression/access thereto and Russia's 0.1% efforts?

    Non-existent.

    :icon_jawdrop:
     
  12. Hadrian's Hammer

    Hadrian's Hammer Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2018
    Messages:
    518
    Likes Received:
    273
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Thanks, time will be the true judge of Duginism and it's effectiveness. Let's make sure it's not successful ;).
     
  13. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2018
    Messages:
    17,500
    Likes Received:
    17,612
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So they got trump elected? Got an address so i can send them a thank you letter?
     
    Gatewood likes this.
  14. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Absolutely. Did not see this before today but completely true.
     
    APACHERAT likes this.
  15. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I was not aware that he did that.

    Daily on the network news as I watch them trash Trump, I keep thinking how they never would do that to Obama.
     
    Gatewood and Merwen like this.
  16. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2016
    Messages:
    19,496
    Likes Received:
    9,006
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Thanks, EarthSky and II'll do that.
     
  17. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2015
    Messages:
    25,530
    Likes Received:
    5,363
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The simple fact is that the more dumb someone is, the more susceptible to propaganda they'll be. It's why children are so easy to manipulate - not yet knowledgeable enough to rationalize?
     
  18. bigfella

    bigfella Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2016
    Messages:
    7,548
    Likes Received:
    8,742
    Trophy Points:
    113
    One of the funniest posts in the history of this board. Actually laugh out loud funny.
     
  19. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2016
    Messages:
    19,496
    Likes Received:
    9,006
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What do you find funny about it?
     
  20. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2016
    Messages:
    19,496
    Likes Received:
    9,006
    Trophy Points:
    113
    History has shown that some very intelligent people can believe some very foolish things. In fact there is a disconnect in the brain that can separate beliefs from intelligence, as tests have proven.
     
    Antiduopolist likes this.
  21. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2014
    Messages:
    20,296
    Likes Received:
    7,744
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ironic that you just described MSM. So, russian propaganda, and amercian propaganda. Both can be outrageous and overt in their tactics, so that it screams, "propaganda!"

    We are being deluged in propaganda, and if it didn't work on some of us, there would be no effort given to it. So, it works, but only on some of us.

    We could trash the constitution and abridge some rights of free speech, to keep the russians from turning americans into Putin's puppets.

    Any takers?
     
    Antiduopolist likes this.
  22. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2015
    Messages:
    25,530
    Likes Received:
    5,363
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's true, and it's been one of my sigs for ages . . .

    'Intellect is no indicator of credulity.' Proof positive is rampant on the Science forum.
     
    Fred C Dobbs likes this.
  23. FivepointFive

    FivepointFive Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2017
    Messages:
    2,754
    Likes Received:
    684
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Bingo..

    NPR told the story.. Useful fake science idiots in Germany wrote a "research" paper that the CIA made AIDS to kill blacks and gays at Ft Dietrich at Edgewood Arsenal.. They got it published in an Indian Newspaper and let it stew for a few days.. Then the Kremlin news sources cited it and before long Dan Rather was on the TV saying the Government made AIDS..

    Supposedly something like 6 in 10 African Americans will poll they believe the story today

    You seem Putin Empathatic Lil Mike
     
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2018
  24. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Messages:
    18,135
    Likes Received:
    13,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    As if science and education are incorruptible.
     
  25. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,681
    Likes Received:
    27,214
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Science is a method for allowing the facts to win out over all of the human biases that normally drive us to remain primitive and superstitious. Be critical, not an ideologue. We are constantly battling our own nature here. That nature is why we spent the vast majority of our time on earth as stone-throwing, sky-worshipping primitives. It is a miracle that we ever reached this point.
     

Share This Page