Meeting in Trump Tower was "treasonous and unpatriotic"

Good Lord, where to begin. The Trump administration is unraveling before our eyes.

Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, and Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign manager met with Russian operatives at Trump's home in New York, Trump Tower, to obtain dirt on the Clinton campaign. Dirt the Russians claimed they had. The meeting took place on June 9, 2016.

In a book written by Michael Wolff, Steve Bannon, Trump's chief strategist and fired senior advisor, stated that the meeting was both "treasonous and unpatriotic."

"The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor -- with no lawyers. They didn't have any lawyers," Bannon said, according to the Guardian. "Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad s***, and I happen to think it's all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately."

Bannon had a lot more to say. His statements could fill a book ... literally. Let us move on to Trump's reaction and the repercussions of Bannon's statements.

Despite the fact that Trump owes his election victory to the strategies cooked up by Bannon, despite Trump's warm praise of Bannon with statements like these, "I want to thank Steve Bannon for his service. He came to the campaign during my run against Crooked Hillary Clinton - it was great!, Steve Bannon will be a tough and smart new voice at @BreitbartNews...maybe even better than ever before. Fake News needs the competition!" often referring to Bannon as a friend, Trump now turned on his friend. This is completely understandable if you know Trump.

"Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my Presidency. When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind," Trump said. "Now that he is on his own, Steve is learning that winning isn't as easy as I make it look. Steve had very little to do with our historic victory, which was delivered by the forgotten men and women of this country," added the President.

Bannon also reportedly told Wolff that special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into the Trump campaign's potential ties to Russia is centered on money laundering, saying that the White House is "sitting on a beach trying to stop a Category Five" hurricane.

That is Trump's greatest fear. That Mueller will obey the old axiom, "follow the money."

For some time now Trump and his associates have been attacking Trump's own party. The "drain the swamp" strategy is aimed at RINO's, a euphemism for the Republican leadership.

Now Trump's base is attacking itself. Bannon is the self-proclaimed leader of the alt-right movement. He is a strong supporter of white nationalism and the chief strategist of the MAGA strategy. That is the very essence of Trump's base. Bannnon's ideologies are the reasons Trump is so popular with his base.

Now his supporters have a difficult choice, Trump or Trump's principles. If they turn on Bannon like Trump did, they are rejecting all the principles they hold dear, "drain the swamp," MAGA, and nationalism.

Then there is another very important issue. In the book by Wolff, Bannon brought up several contentious points of which Congress has been investigating for a year or more with their secret hearings with secret testimonies and secret documents.

When are the Republican committees going to release their findings concerning the Republican President?

Many are weary of Republicans telling us there is no evidence, a self-fulfilling prophecy.

There is so much more to all of this. If you are interested in learning more, you can consult these sites.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/03/politics/bannon-wolff-fire-and-fury/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/us/politics/trump-bannon.html?_r=0

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...m-says-ex-chief-strategist-lost-his-mind.html

 

In the book, Bannon claimed that there is "zero" chance that then-candidate Trump was not informed about his son's meeting with a Russian lawyer who promised "dirt" on Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad ****, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately," Bannon said in the book.

I could not agree more. Trump's son, Trump's son-in-law, and Trump's campaign manager are meeting with Russian operatives in Trump's home, Trump Tower, and Trump doesn't know anything about it? That is absurd. Either Trump knew about it or Trump is dyslexic.

Come to think about it, maybe Trump didn't know about the meeting. Just joking.

Seriously, here is Junior's reaction. It is similar to his dad's.

Donald Trump Jr. ✔ @DonaldJTrumpJr

Steve had the honor of working in the White House & serving the country. Unfortunately, he squandered that privilege & turned that opportunity into a nightmare of backstabbing, harassing, leaking, lying & undermining the President. Steve is not a strategist, he is an opportunist

2:14 PM - Jan 3, 2018

The Trump administration is government by tweets, apparently.

 

No chance Bannon is just bitter at being canned huh?

 

Appears Bannon isn't the only one that might be bitter. Of trumps entire, hand picked staff, the nicest thing that any one of them can say about trump is that he's a moron. The other descriptions go down hill from there. Must be a bunch of bitter people in the White House.

 

No doubt he is. That doesn't mean his statements are inaccurate. This guy was Trump's chief strategist during the election campaign. Trump was headed toward a double digit loss. Bannon turned that around. Then he became a key member of the transition team. Then he became a senior advisor to the President. He held that post for eight months. For a short time he was on Trump's National Security Council.

Trump regarded Bannon as his friend. "I like Mr. Bannon. He's a friend of mine," Trump said in August.

In other words, this guy was in Trump's inner circle. He knows stuff. I wouldn't dismiss him as being bitter.

 

Why not, he is. He was fired almost entirely because he couldn't get along with the Trump Kids. He wasn't at the meeting, he has no idea what it was about other than what he's read in the papers he considers the Trump Kids too liberal, and he likely has a point. But the fact is his opinion on that meeting s no better than your or mine, and it was no more illegal than what Fusion GPS did on behalf of Hillary and likely with her full knowledge regarding steele and the Trump dossier that the Kremlin created out of whole cloth.

 

But I can certainly dismiss you for being a cynical opportunist when it comes to whom you take seriously.

Not long ago you wouldn't have believed Bannon if he said water is wet.

 

Wondering why you didnt begin on one of numerous other threads on this same topic.

 

What I don't understand is, just how long are Republican lawmakers going to put up this guy. Trump keeps getting in the way of important issues. Remember back in November the government faced a crisis, keeping the government open. A meeting between the Republican and Democratic leaders in Congress had been in the works for weeks. It was to be held at the White House. Then Trump tweeted:

“Meeting with ‘Chuck and Nancy’ today about keeping government open and working,” Trump tweeted Tuesday morning. “Problem is they want illegal immigrants flooding into our Country unchecked, are weak on Crime and want to substantially RAISE Taxes. I don’t see a deal!”

The President didn't see a deal. He insulted the Democratic leaders by using their given names rather than their titles, justly earned. It was a direct insult, and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Republican Leader Nancy Pelosi were no-shows. What was the point if no deal could be made?

The vital meeting to keep the government open turned into a political stunt with Trump sitting between two empty chairs labeled Schumer and Pelosi.

This is not an isolated incident. This happens nearly every day. Take a look at what is happening right now. The Republican Senate has reconvened. The House will shortly. The Republican lawmakers should be congratulating themselves for a major accomplishment, tax reform. Ahead lies another looming deadline of a government shutdown. The Republicans want to move ahead with another major accomplishment, a bipartisan deal on infrastructure. Then there is DACA, the wall, and healthcare.

What is Washington buzzing about? Bannon's comments in the Wolff book and Trump's legal difficulties. A special prosecutor has been assigned to look into Trump's activities. No less than four Congressional committees are doing the same. Trump and the White House are totally occupied by other matters right now, not governing, while Trump himself is concentrating on moronic, paranoid, and deceitful tweets concerning Bannon, Kim Jung Un, Huma Abedin, and Hillary Clinton.

Trump hates his job. He has spent one-third of his Presidency at one of his golf courses. He is begging to be removed from office, proving his incompetence every single day.

Again, I ask, how long will Republican lawmakers put up with this?

 

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Again, I ask, how long will Republican lawmakers put up with this?[/QUOTE]

Again I ask, what do you suggest Republican lawmakers do about President Trump? He did win the election little over a year ago.

 

Vote differently from his stances? Offer meaningful opposition?

 

Again I ask, what do you suggest Republican lawmakers do about President Trump? He did win the election little over a year ago.[/QUOTE]

And since that time he has demonstrated that he is incapable of performing the duties of the POTUS by use of the 25th Amendment or impeachment.

 

And since that time he has demonstrated that he is incapable of performing the duties of the POTUS by use of the 25th Amendment or impeachment.[/QUOTE]

Removing a president from power just because you think he is an idiot or don't like him would set a hugely dangerous precedent for the United States.

 

Bannon was not a part of Trump's campaign staff when that meeting took place. You are right. He knows only what you and I know, what we read in the papers. However, you left out the part where we know a great deal.

The meeting took place at Trump's home, Trump Tower. Goldstone made it clear to Junior that he would be meeting with representatives of the Russian government. In addition to Junior, Trump's son-in-law and Trump's campaign manager met with the Russians. It is inconceivable that Trump didn't know of the meeting. They met with the Russians to obtain something of value to the Trump campaign, dirt on the Clinton campaign. It is immaterial whether or not they received it.

Based on what we know, what Bannon knows, this is a clear case of collaboration with a hostile foreign power. Without notifying the FBI, the meeting is a clear violation of campaign laws which forbid obtaining information from in foreign power in an American election, especially a Presidential election.

Bannon was right. To attend that meeting with lawyers and without notifying the FBI is unpatriotic. Probably not treasonous, but conspiracy will work.

 

I hope you don't mind if I decide where and what I am going to write. Are you in the habit of telling other people what to write?

 

Collaboration to do what. Listen to some one complain about how the sanctions were ruining her adoption business.?

 

I thought Russia turned it around?

Hard to keep up with you guys changing your story so much.

First its Russia, now its Bannon who made Trump win.

**sigh**

 

Again, I ask, how long will Republican lawmakers put up with this?[/QUOTE]

Again I ask, what do you suggest Republican lawmakers do about President Trump? He did win the election little over a year ago.[/QUOTE]

There are three possibilities.

A) Republican leaders in Congress can compel him to resign. Clearly, he and his legal difficulties are an impediment to their work. Clearly, Trump does not like his job. He has spent one-third of his time on his golf courses. And, clearly, he is not taking his job seriously, For more on that, see http://politicalforum.com/index.php...esidential-statements.522689/#post-1068488221

B) Section Four, 25th Amendment, inability to preform his duties as President.

C) Impeachment

There is something wrong with a President who seeks credit for aviation safety and brags to Kim that his nuclear button is bigger than his.

 

Like I have said, Trump is a big joke. His supporters have no choice. Now they have to become comedians.

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And since that time he has demonstrated that he is incapable of performing the duties of the POTUS by use of the 25th Amendment or impeachment.[/QUOTE]

It may be just a question of time. I am giving it another three to five months before Mueller submits his report. Boy, s**t will hit the fan then, just in time for the elections.

Speaking of incompetence, this is surreal. The President is engaging in extortion.

As special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s inquiry into Trump’s actions appears to be reaching a critical point. Trump and his allies are proposing a bargain, with a not-so-subtle message to Democrats: “If you don’t want your people to be investigated, remain quiet as we shut down the congressional investigations and undercut the special counsel. If my people are going to be investigated, then so will yours.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ba379b809ab_story.html?utm_term=.990bf6c958f2

Trump is so incompetent he doesn't know that it is not the Democrats who are investigating him. It is the Republicans. Four Republican committees are investigating him. The Republican-controlled DOJ is investigating him. Trump appointee to the FBI, Chris Wray, is a Republican. The special prosecutor, Mueller, is a Republican.

I don't know if this is a lack of intelligence or a mental problem, but there is something seriously wrong with Trump.

Trump's efforts to derail this investigation are rather humorous.

And pathetic. Again, we have to ask ourselves, is there any reason why we should take him seriously?

 

So even you don't know what they were collaborating on which means you can't know if it was illegal.

 

Suddenly Sandy Shanks loves Steve Bannon. Funny innit?

 

Their story is all over the map. We can count on one thing though. A daily dump of wasted posts trashing Donald Trump though.

Another issue they refuse to address.
Let's go with the Russian accusations.
Who was the president all during 2016? It was not Trump.
When was trump elected? During Obama's era.
Who ordered the investigation where results, though very troubling in their vague accusations, and told the nation that 16 agencies agreed? It was not Trump.

Who then allowed the meddling? Obama knew from May of 2016. So does this mean it is Trump's fault?

I guess that though Obama was in charge, if you voted for Hillary, it can't be Obama nor her. I has to be the guy who was supposed to lose.

I find that argument ridiculous. Trump never caused any of this mess to happen.

 

And if Obama had acted with no real proof of collusion. What would he have been accused of?

This is the equivalent of blaming a paedestrian for being run over because he was on the side walk

 

Just a little suspicious when a new thread pops up with the same topic as 5 existing threads. Makes one wonder if the OP had to read 50 other posts to form an opinion on the subject?