Men Unite to Stand Against Violence Towards Women

Maybe you should try reading the thread before you say what you've been told to say....eh??? The thread addresses domestic violence btw, not violence in general

http://www.inter-disciplinary.net/wp-con...epaper.pdf
Hit like a Girl:
Women Who Batter Their Partners
Theresa Porter

Abstract
Domestic violence by women represents a blind spot for western society. Since 1977, multiple
large scale international studies have demonstrated the women can and do beat, batter and murder
their male and female intimate partners at a rate equal to or higher than that of man, yet this issue
is not simply ignored but denied by society at large. Women’s use of domestic violence is
misrepresented by the media and denied by feminists, both of whom find the topic threatening.
Despite this gender symmetry in domestic violence, media representations display male
perpetrators 10 times more often than they display female perpetrators and when it is displayed, it
is usually shown as humorous. For the media and the society it caters to, domestically violent
women represent a failure of social control; women are not behaving in the expected manner. For
feminists, domestically violent women threaten the victim paradigm upon which much of Second
Wave feminist was based. This paper will examine the prevalence of domestic violence by women
against their intimate partners, explore the societal myths and gender dogma that both hides and
perpetuates this form of violence by women.

1. Introduction

2. Denial and misrepresentation in research

Yet if one were to ask most people, they would deny awareness of the extent of women’s
domestic violence in western culture. This is in part due to the denial and misrepresentation of the
issue by several groups, including Second Generation feminists, researchers and the media.
The discourse on gender symmetry in intimate partner violence by Second Generation
feminists often involves claims that women’s violence is less injurious than men’s violence, as if
this is a relevant issue. No one should be subjected to abuse, regardless of their physical strength.
This argument also ignores the women victims in violent lesbian relationships, where the
difference in body strength can be supposed to be less pronounced. Finally, it is important to recall
that women compensate for any discrepancy in size by using weapons more often than do men12.


3. Denial and misrepresentation in media and society

4. Consequences

[...] Ultimately, all violence is complex and multi-determined with individual, social and cultural
factors47. Women’s intimate partner violence occurs in the context of a significant double standard
about violence and gender, with women’s violence seen as funny or unimportant, or simply not
seen at all. It is somehow always circumstantial and beyond women’s control. It is time to move
beyond simplistic, dichotomous thinking and biased research and recognize all types of intimate
violence in order to stop it http://www.inter-disciplinary.net/wp-con...epaper.pdf
Hit like a Girl:
Women Who Batter Their Partners
Theresa Porter

Abstract
Domestic violence by women represents a blind spot for western society. Since 1977, multiple
large scale international studies have demonstrated the women can and do beat, batter and murder
their male and female intimate partners at a rate equal to or higher than that of man, yet this issue
is not simply ignored but denied by society at large. Women’s use of domestic violence is
misrepresented by the media and denied by feminists, both of whom find the topic threatening.
Despite this gender symmetry in domestic violence, media representations display male
perpetrators 10 times more often than they display female perpetrators and when it is displayed, it
is usually shown as humorous. For the media and the society it caters to, domestically violent
women represent a failure of social control; women are not behaving in the expected manner. For
feminists, domestically violent women threaten the victim paradigm upon which much of Second
Wave feminist was based. This paper will examine the prevalence of domestic violence by women
against their intimate partners, explore the societal myths and gender dogma that both hides and
perpetuates this form of violence by women.

1. Introduction

2. Denial and misrepresentation in research

Yet if one were to ask most people, they would deny awareness of the extent of women’s
domestic violence in western culture. This is in part due to the denial and misrepresentation of the
issue by several groups, including Second Generation feminists, researchers and the media.
The discourse on gender symmetry in intimate partner violence by Second Generation
feminists often involves claims that women’s violence is less injurious than men’s violence, as if
this is a relevant issue. No one should be subjected to abuse, regardless of their physical strength.
This argument also ignores the women victims in violent lesbian relationships, where the
difference in body strength can be supposed to be less pronounced. Finally, it is important to recall
that women compensate for any discrepancy in size by using weapons more often than do men12.


3. Denial and misrepresentation in media and society

4. Consequences

[...] Ultimately, all violence is complex and multi-determined with individual, social and cultural
factors47. Women’s intimate partner violence occurs in the context of a significant double standard
about violence and gender, with women’s violence seen as funny or unimportant, or simply not
seen at all. It is somehow always circumstantial and beyond women’s control. It is time to move
beyond simplistic, dichotomous thinking and biased research and recognize all types of intimate
violence in order to stop it

 

I have lived long enough to know that men cause more violence in domestic relationships than women do. You want some evidence of that fact? You are on to a loser here.

 

He's on topic because it's politically correct to single men out as the perpetrators of Domestic Violence and it isn't politically correct to single out blacks as the perpetrators of violence therefore there aren't any marches condemning black on white violence, but there are marches singling men out as the perpetrators of domestic violence.

 

Another example of another subjective opinion, that's not an objective fact.

Try reading the thread, including the peer reviewed scientific studies if you would actually like to know the truth

Cheers

 

WHO report into domestic violence, try reading it.

http://www.who.int/gender/violence/who_multicountry_study/Introduction-Chapter1-Chapter2.pdf

 

REFERENCES EXAMINING ASSAULTS BY WOMEN ON THEIR SPOUSES OR MALE PARTNERS: AN ANNOTATED BIBLIOGRAPHY
Martin S. Fiebert
Department of Psychology
California State University, Long Beach

SUMMARY: This bibliography examines 286 scholarly investigations: 221 empirical studies and 65 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 371,600.

http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm

 

The WHO report is world wide not local, try reading it.

http://www.who.int/gender/violence/who_multicountry_study/Introduction-Chapter1-Chapter2.pdf

 

That link covers all sorts of violence so why you posting it? You just told me this is about domestic violence but you cannot even post up something that is relevant to it.All you have here is a list of reports/books by some people and some figures, without the whole report it is impossible to put it into context. Pretty lapse of you.

 

Singling men out as the perpetrators of domestic violence and women as the victims is sexist.

Cheers

 

I guess you never read the WHO report I posted then and that you have now given up. Here is some more info for you to ignore.



More than one in three women and more than one in four men in the United States have experienced rape, physical violence and/or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime.

74 percent of all murder-suicides involved an intimate partner (spouse, common-law spouse, ex-spouse or boyfriend/girlfriend). Of these, 96 percent were women killed by their intimate partners.

One in five female high school students reports being physically and/or sexually abused by a dating partner.

Interpersonal violence is the leading cause of female homicides and injury-related deaths during pregnancy.

The percentage of women who consider their mental health to be poor is almost three times higher among women with a history of violence than among those without.

Women with disabilities have a 40 percent greater risk of intimate partner violence, especially severe violence, than women without disabilities.
Nearly half of all women in the United States have experienced at least one form of psychological aggression by an intimate partner.
On average, more than three women are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends every day.
One out of three women around the world has been beaten, coerced into sex or otherwise abused during her lifetime.
© 2013 American Psychological Association
http://www.apa.org/topics/violence/partner.aspx?item=1

 

Singling men out as the perpetrators of domestic violence and women as the victims is sexist.

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/V75-Straus-09.pdf

CURRENT CONTROVERSIES AND PREVALENCE
CONCERNING FEMALE OFFENDERS
OF INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE
Why the Overwhehning Evidence on Partner
Physical Violel.1~e1>y"\Vo1ll.enHas Not Been
Perceived and Is Often Denied
MURRAY A. STRAUS
Universi(y o/New Hampshire, Durham, New Hampshire, USA
Over 200 studies have found about the same percentage ofwomen
as men physically assault partners, and that the risk factors and
motivations are mostly the same as for men. Explanations are
suggested for why this fundamental fact has not been perceived by
the public and practitioners' including concealment and denial
by many academics who know the research. Explanations for
concealment and denial are also presented, with discussion ofthe
adverse effect that misperception and denial have had on prevention
and treatment programs, The practical implications of
recognizing gender symmetry in partner violence are discussed.

http://newmalestudies.com/OJS/index.php/...view/59/59

Male Victims of Domestic Violence
DonalD G. Dutton
Katherine r. White

Abstract
Intimate partner violence (IPV) or domestic violence (DV) is often framed as a “woman’s issue” or
“violence against women” generating the perception of males involved in violent relationships as the
aggressor and more capable of inflicting injury or causing harm to their partner. Due to this set of
beliefs called the “gender paradigm”, male victims are often met with disbelief or suspicion when
they attempt to gain protection from a female partner, or access services. Male victims may also report
difficulty in locating services specific to their needs, as help lines or shelters are targeted exclusively
towards female victims. These issues and the implications for male victims will be discussed.


Conclusion
Both male victims and male perpetrators have a more difficult experience in the aftermath of IPV.
Male perpetrators receive harsher legal penalties, and are judged as more capable of inflicting injury
or instilling fear in their female partner. This is true even when they have been part of a bilateral IPV
pattern. Male victims also fare worse when attempting to access services, as males are more likely to
be labelled the aggressor and to be treated with suspicion and injuries they have sustained are likely
to be minimized. Custody assessments are misdirected, focusing on the male as the sole source of
threat to children for physical abuse. A major revision of our thinking is required, one that is empirically
based and can to alter an emotionally tinged stereotype

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/ID41-PR41-...ess-07.pdf

Children and Youth Services Review 30 (200 252–275
Dominance and symmetry in partner violence by male and female university students in 32 nations
Murray A. Straus
Family Research Laboratory, University of New Hampshire, Durham, NH 03824, United States

Abstract
The study investigated the widely held beliefs that physical violence against partners (PV) in marital, cohabiting, and dating
relationships is almost entirely perpetrated by men, and that the major risk factor for PV is male dominance in the relationship. The
empirical data on these issues were provided by 13,601 university students in 32 nations who participated in the International
Dating Violence Study. The results in the first part of this paper show that almost one-third of the female as well as male students
physically assaulted a dating partner in the previous 12 months, and that the most frequent pattern was bidirectional, i.e., both were
violent, followed by “female-only” violence. Violence by only the male partner was the least frequent pattern according to both
male and female participants. The second part of the article focuses on whether there is gender symmetry in a crucial aspect of the
etiology of partner PV — dominance by one partner. The results show that dominance by either the male or the female partner is
associated with an increased probability of violence. These results, in combination with results from many other studies, call into
question the assumption that PV is primarily a male crime and that, when women are violent, it is usually in self-defense. Because
these assumptions are crucial elements in almost all partner PV prevention and treatment programs, a fundamental revision is
needed to bring these programs into alignment with the empirical data. Prevention and treatment of PV could become more
effective if the programs recognize that most PV is bidirectional and act on the high rate of perpetration by women and the fact that
dominance by the female partner is as strongly related to PV as dominance by the male partner.

http://www.inter-disciplinary.net/wp-con...epaper.pdf

Hit like a Girl:
Women Who Batter Their Partners
Theresa Porter

Abstract
Domestic violence by women represents a blind spot for western society. Since 1977, multiple
large scale international studies have demonstrated the women can and do beat, batter and murder
their male and female intimate partners at a rate equal to or higher than that of man, yet this issue
is not simply ignored but denied by society at large. Women’s use of domestic violence is
misrepresented by the media and denied by feminists, both of whom find the topic threatening.
Despite this gender symmetry in domestic violence, media representations display male
perpetrators 10 times more often than they display female perpetrators and when it is displayed, it
is usually shown as humorous. For the media and the society it caters to, domestically violent
women represent a failure of social control; women are not behaving in the expected manner. For
feminists, domestically violent women threaten the victim paradigm upon which much of Second
Wave feminist was based. This paper will examine the prevalence of domestic violence by women
against their intimate partners, explore the societal myths and gender dogma that both hides and
perpetuates this form of violence by women.

1. Introduction

2. Denial and misrepresentation in research

Yet if one were to ask most people, they would deny awareness of the extent of women’s
domestic violence in western culture. This is in part due to the denial and misrepresentation of the
issue by several groups, including Second Generation feminists, researchers and the media.
The discourse on gender symmetry in intimate partner violence by Second Generation
feminists often involves claims that women’s violence is less injurious than men’s violence, as if
this is a relevant issue. No one should be subjected to abuse, regardless of their physical strength.
This argument also ignores the women victims in violent lesbian relationships, where the
difference in body strength can be supposed to be less pronounced. Finally, it is important to recall
that women compensate for any discrepancy in size by using weapons more often than do men12.


3. Denial and misrepresentation in media and society

4. Consequences

[...] Ultimately, all violence is complex and multi-determined with individual, social and cultural
factors47. Women’s intimate partner violence occurs in the context of a significant double standard
about violence and gender, with women’s violence seen as funny or unimportant, or simply not
seen at all. It is somehow always circumstantial and beyond women’s control. It is time to move
beyond simplistic, dichotomous thinking and biased research and recognize all types of intimate
violence in order to stop it

 

Since I've shown multiple times that the majority of domestic violence is perpetrated by women on men in the US, I suppose you must concede that singling men out as the perpetrators and women as the victims of domestic violence is especially egregious in the US-right?

 

No one has been alive for 10,000 years, not even a man.

 

At least we've established the verbally abusive gender in this thread-lol.

A List of Gwendolines Abusive Quotes:

Most victims are women. Are you being a twit on purpose

89% of the males who were victims of assault in the Australian Bureau of Statistics Survey were assaulted by males. Not women. You nit.
Meanwhile, twits appear to claim the majority of perpetrators of domestic violence are women against men.
and meanwhile, ning-nongs without CREDIBLE sources dribble about
The men on the march this morning had calibre and character, a far cry from some of the twits on this forum

 

More blatant lies

Assaults by women on their spouses or male partners is also what's known as 'domestic violence'

221 empirical studies are more than reports/books

Again you've shown that feminists distort the truth/lie to promote their agenda.

You've lost all your credibility and anything you post should be regarded with suspicion.

 

Domestic Violence is a human rights issue.

 

Actually your own links to back up your argument do not state that. You should try reading them.

 

I have not lied, you posted up a link that covers all sorts of violence, anyone can see that who wants to read it. I am still waiting for your comments on the WHO report I posted up, you have been silent on that front.

 

Firstly, the WHO report you posted suffers from the same issue The White Ribbon Campaign suffers from. It ignores the violence perpetrated against roughly 1/2 of the population. In other words, The WHO report ignores the suffering of male domestic violence victims entirely.

Secondly the WHO report studied only 10 cherry picked countries. 10 is a small sample size from which to make generalizations about DV perpetrated against women in all the countries in the world. Moreover, the report did not randomly sample 10 countries from all the countries in the world, therefore; the WHO report is biased.

Thirdly the WHO report counts female genital mutilation as domestic violence against women, and the who report chooses countries where female genital mutilation is practiced, (this is another example of bias in the report). If the WHO report did not ignore males entirely, and it sampled from countries such as Israel and The United States of America where male genital mutilation is the norm, the rate of domestic violence perpetrated against males would be just as, if not more significant.

 

Actually, they do. *The U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Prevention report, "In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. Reciprocity was associated w/ more frequent violence among women, but not men."

Cheers

 

From the study:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/


That it does not take into account the more severe forms of domestic violence, particularly sexual aggression and the more threatening violence, makes the study EXTREMELY LIMITED in it approach to domestic violence.

Domestic violence occurs more often in a family situation where children are involved, and when the partners are older.

A sample of ONLY 18-28 year olds in this study is NOT indicative / not a good illustrator of domestic violence. Particularly when the more severe forms of violence and aggression that are often used in domestic violence are left out of this study - in which men are the predominant more violent aggressors.

A shallow limited study that left out the vital elements of domestic violence. Perhaps those who conducted the study didn't think rape within a marriage WAS domestic violence and perhaps they didn't think that being beaten to within an inch of your life was domestic violence... what a shallow, poor excuse for a study.

 

If you never heard of the concept of slavery, serfdom, forced labor and all other forms of exploitation throughout history, I cannot help you. It is up to you to believe, men held human rights for the last 10 000 years, which they denied women, but it is just because you want to believe you own hate pictures of men. It is senseless to refer to the Roman Empire, the Egypt, the Indians (both), Chinese or any civilization in recent times to explain to you the concept of universal human rights did not even exist for the overwhelming most part of the last 10 000 years.

However, personal insults of feminists can be taken as compliment.

When it comes to child maltreatment at least here in Germany 40% of the suspects are female according to the BKA. Suspected does not mean convicted and such statistics cannot handle the dark figures (because of which I am interested how feminists collect their data), but its at least a good indicator.

 

Women are both victims and perpetrators of domestic violence, as are men.

Women aren't the only victims of domestic violence, and men aren't the only perpetrators of domestic violence.

Domestic Violence is a human rights issue.

 

This is becoming ashamingly cheap now, first you try to interfere into a discussion, in which typical feminist crap is at the table:

Which I reply to:

... and now taikoo tries to assist Whatnow! by stating I claimed to be familiar with all societies within the last 10 000 years, because I simply corrected nonsense. Lets try it with basic logic, to refute this kind of generalizing feminist bull(*)(*)(*)(*) it will be enough to give an example of one a society in which men were not protected by the universal human rights. Lets furthermore have a look into the development of the concept of universal human rights in our contemporary sense, the first serious efforts to guarantee these rights have been made in the 17th and 18th century at the earliest, but such facts doesn't matter to a feminist, sounds much better to talk bull(*)(*)(*)(*) of 10 000 years during which men were protected by these rights.

And now, if you refute the ashamingly primitive arguments feminists use to paint their hate pictures, there comes another feminist in a very dull manner inversing the roles, stating I pretend to be familiar with all societies in the last 10 000 years and adding some personal insults.

See above.

Where am I doing this? It is Gwendoline who argued the significance of a study about domestic violence as no children were involved and only young couples as a referring group. Otherwise men are according to her overwhelmingly responsible for domestic violence. I replied to that with a number I read in BKA statistics that in trials of child maltreatment there are about 40% females as suspects. In other words a ratio 60-40 is not the kind of ratio I would use the term "predominantly" for.

But of course this is stereotyping. Its of course not stereotyping to simply state that men are responsible for domestic violence (without any trial to explain what this opinion is based on). But to refer to a statistics that 40% of the suspects in cases of child maltreatment are female is of course a negative stereotype.