mercy killing the retarded/feeble-minded

The tune is the same old Horst Wessel malady reborn.

 

Well, it is going to get "a bit stretchy and slightly damaged" some time, most likely. Why not make it sooner rather than later?

Again, I'm not sure how much that "pregnancy will damage my body" argument holds up when the woman wants to get pregnant some time, and it is really all about the timing than whether she actually ever wants to have a pregnancy or not.

 

The point is not so much body damage...as body control, and someone else taking it from you because they think their OPINION gives them the right.

 

I've already asked you the question to list the things that your think make up a human being, would you care to list them again and then respond as to how children born without limbs, a brain etc etc can still be persons under your stated conditions,

 

But that is exactly what abortion is about. The woman seeks to exercise control (and bodily damage, btw) over the other life within her.

The woman can't exercise unfettered control over her own body without exercising control over someone else—permanently.

It really seems a bit hypocritical to accuse pro-lifers of being the ones who want to exert authoritarian control over someone else's body.

 

Do you pro-lifers even understand English because from you comment above I seriously doubt it, show me any comment of mine or even the majority of pro-choice people who have stated that the unborn are not human . .you do understand the difference between an adjective and a noun don't you?

Here you go, the unborn are human (adjective), that does not mean they are human (noun) beings.

 

your more sick and twisted then I originally thought
How in the hell can you morally justify the killing of an innocent human that its only crime is the irresponsibility of its the mother

 

Fugazi does not believe it's a "person". According to his prior posts, it's not a person because it is not born.
Therefore, killing is okay.

 

Thus did I use the term OPINION. That the woman carrying the fetus is a human being and fully capable of thought and function is NOT mere opinion....that the Fetus meets this criteria is. In fact biology, medical science, physical reality, and pretty much everything beyond religious thought have an opinion opposing this.

So...the question remains.....Does your opinion trump the rights of another person?

 

I have a sibling that has Downs . I want to point out not all have Mental Retardation and many live rich and full lives. I would be sadden to any child thrown away , there people who wait in line to adopt and yes some adopt kids with downs

http://www.politicalforum.com/membe...ly-picture8153-100-0900-1-my-sister-dawn.html

 

I see, as you cannot address your own foolishness and stay on topic you resort to ad hominem .. it was expected.

you waded in, half-cocked, into a debate that you obviously hadn't bothered to follow, making accusations that you could not back-up, when that was pointed out to you-you then followed that up with more BS, which, again, you cannot back-up, and when that was pointed out to you-you ignore everything and resort to a childish tantrum.

 

Actually that is just more BS from you, if you even bothered to read what I write you would see that my position is of not giving a damn whether the unborn are persons or not . .so please don't try to assume what you want something to be instead of what it actually is.

 

And I fully agree with you, pity the OP author does not as he is on record as stating that DS newborns should be killed.

 

I suspect the severe mental retardation is not actually a direct result of the chromosomal abnormality, but rather a secondary effect resulting from fetal development, because it does not afflict all those with Down syndrome equally. Some of them are like wild animals. Others are really not that much different from you and me.

That can make the decision to abort or not all the more difficult, because even if you know that your unborn child has Down syndrome, you do not know how severe it is going to turn out to be.

 

Is a severely retarded human a person? One who cannot talk and essentially has less cognition than a wild animal?

 

Yes, they are.

 

But conveniently if they are unborn they are not people.


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completely and utterly wrong.

 

I cannot believe you ask this question, it is an inane response.

The right to decide, just as you do, when another person can use her body . .by your logic a rapists has the right to rape someone purely based on their own personal needs, or a person has the right to link into your body in order to sustain their own life . .which is complete and utter BS.

Hoe does the woman have the right to her own body, when you want the state to tell her what she can or cannot do with a part of that body, would you accept the state telling you what you can or cannot do with a part of your body, if not why should you expect a woman to?

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already done on numerous occasions, the fact that you don't want to comprehend this is your failing not the failing of others.

 

That's the whole topic of this thread! And it seems you want to go off-topic and debate all sorts of different arguments— any one, as long as it is not the main topic of this thread.

 

she is exercising control over her body just as you can.

the bodily damage is in response to the injuries she is sustaining, just as you can inflict bodily damage to someone who is injuring you, up to and including the death of the attacker.

do you any idea of what consent and sefl-defence are?

 

Really, then you should have no problem quoting where I do this, please do.

You made this assertion in your OP - They abort 27-week old down syndrome babies all the time, because they don't find out until that late into the pregnancy.

I asked you to provide the evidence to this ... I am still waiting for it.

 

http://liveactionnews.org/usa-today...th-down-syndrome-with-a-20-week-abortion-ban/

 

Convenience has nothing to do with science.

 

not a single link to the source data they are making their assumptions from .. fail yet again.