Merkel wants a german Aircraft carrier

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  1. gnoib

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    You are 24, what's your job. Have any. Live by your self and on your own. Make a living.
    24 ?
     
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    No, it just isn't. The Germans simply have more to gain from the Russians than from us.

    The relationship between Germany and the United States is breaking down. When Congress passed sanctions against Russia to spite Trump, the Germans grumbled. Simply a sign of things to come.
     
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    We depend on trade. The german navy fought against pirates at the front of somalia, after german ships got attacked. Its good to be able to crush 3rd world scum that attacks us.
     
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    Germany had the most advanced chemical weapons at the time. I believe they developed Sarin and nerve gas. I may be wrong on specifics.

    Interestingly, HItler was against the use of gas on the battlefield. He believed it was unsoldierly as a result of his WWI experience.
    So no, atomic bombs would not have been used in the field, unless retaliatory.
     
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    He really admired the British Empire and all it had accomplished. It is well documented that Hitler did not want war with England.
     
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    Thank you. Grosse Grossen, Darmstadt would be the destination.
     
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    Is the Potomac and Mississippi deep enough for yours?

    You obviously believe your country has pivilidges that mine has not?
     
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    We get oil, gas and contracts from Russia. We share same goals like crushing sunni islam. Germany and Russia share 1500 years history.

    What do we get from you? McDonalds, refugees and terrorism.

    You are savages without culture. Evrywhere you go, things rott.

    Eastern Germany is rampant anti american. That goes so far that our former ministerpräsident said, she would rather build a pig farm here than a hospital for american soldiers.

    After reunion, this rampant anti americanism swept to the west. Now over 65% of Germans view your country as worse than Iran or North Korea.

    Nothing to do with Russia, we see you as shallow beings and lesser spirits in this world. Primitive and empty minded.

    Im glad that i live in an era that marks your downing.
     
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    It's sort of 40 years too late for such a project... The only use of aircraft carrier is to bomb a country like Libya or Iran. (In the second case more carriers will be needed than Germany can afford). It is useless for defense protecting sea trade routes from pirates and it is hell of the money. Renting or even making an airfield next to the country that is needed to be bombed is much cheaper. And if we speak of carrier a hypersonic rocket with a nuclear warhead is much cheaper than an carrier. The times of carriers left behind in 60s and 70s, when rocketry wasn't so spread. Those days delivery of nuclear bombs was concentrated task for bombers and bombers needed carriers for attacking certain sites saving their range.

    But if Merkel wants to build an expensive toy worth of 8.5 Euro. In any case it is a purely political spending. It doesn't make much of military sense.
     
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    It was not is any way to spite Trump. Russia is an evil sick genocide causing country that invades it's neighbors kills it's journalists and needs to be restricted. The Germans fusillade fuel energy so they are careful about dealing with the monster Russia.
     
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    Than he must have been from Hessen-Hanau of that time.
     
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    You get fossil fuel as I said and that means you are a slave to arussia for that. What does getting "contracts" mean??? A contract is an agreement it is not a physical thing. Acontract can be an agreement for a product or for services.

    As far as your vile childish stupid despicable anti American rant Goebles would have been proud of it. I am sure Putin the KGB colonel is.
     
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    Actually there are not that many ports deep enough to homeport a super carrier at.

    San Diego Bay had to be dredge to allow Nimitz class carriers to be homeported in San Diego Bay and the harbor was only dredged as far as North Island. A Nimitz class carrier can't go any further pass North Island NAS.

    In fact Iowa class battleships were never homeported in San Diego because the San Diego Bay is to shallow and all large battleships on the west coast could only be homeported at either Long Beack Naval Base, San Fransico Bay or Pugetsounds in Washington state. The same is true with America's super carriers.
     
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    In Germany we have the port in Wilhelmshaven, that can allow such ships to dock.
     
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    Any port that can handle large super tankers and super container ships are capable to having a super carrier to use those deep water ports.

    California only has three deep water ports, Long Beach/San Pedro, San Francisco Bay and Port Hueneme which can only handle a few deep draft ships.

    Pearl Harbor is a deep water harbor. Guam is not.

    Subic Bay in the P.I's is a deepwater port where as DaNang isn't and the Saigon Harbor can only handle a few deep draught ships so the U.S. Army during the Vietnam war built KamRan Bay that can handle large ships.
    Russia and the Chi-Coms both want access to KenRahn Bay to use as a forward naval base for their navies.

    Operating an aircraft carrier requires AA and ASW cruisers and destroyers for their escorts.
    Carriers also require oilers to refuel the carrier with JP fuel to be able to conduct aircraft flight operations.

    A Nimitz class carrier has to be refueled every three days while conducting flight operations.

    The oiler also requires escorts.
     
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