MGTOW group - male version of radical feminism

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I can see you have absolutely no grasp on the concept of egalitarianism. Equality means equality...nothing more, nothing less. Your attempt at a semantical parsing of that statement is rather nonsensical, to say the least.

 

Equality may mean equality, but that statement does not call for equality, as there are two different standards: one for men, and one for women. To prove the point, would you be happy if the statement were reversed? Men, their rights and nothing less. Women, their rights and nothing more. Does that sound equal to you?

 

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That quote was a slogan used during the women's suffrage movement after the civil war. Now, to me at least, it represents an idealism of equality. I think you are over-analyzing this.

 

Well, we wouldn't want to think too much about a catchy slogan, right? Just say it and don't think about it. And we should keep a mindset more than a century old, too, right? To keep it in "context", even though that context is long dead. Women got suffrage well before we were born, so why keep with this anachronism, if not to play perpetual victim? I notice you didn't answer the question of how "equal" the slogan sounds when the genders are reversed.

 

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Now you are just babbling. I have no problem with Men Going Their Own Way, in fact I have no problem with anyone going their own way. If we were all independent of thought and action, this world would be a better place. However, the funny thing here is that anyone who joins a group of similiar interest people, becomes an aggregate in a movement whereby you've surrendered your independent thought for the greater purpose of the group. Figuratively speaking, you are no longer going "your own way" but are following "their way."

 

MGTOW isn't about actual men's "rights" issues though - it's just a movement which promotes a weird feminist type of "affirmative action" for men who can't get a girlfriend - it's embarrasing to say the least.

And if the other guy in this thread is an ambassardor for the movement, I seriously don't think Ted Bundy could've done a worse job at scaring people away from it.

 

I'm curious if any of the MGTOW supporters would be willing to state their current and previous history of long-term relationships with women?

 

Deflection noted.

 

I've had a couple of long term relationships in the past, and I'm in one now. Although I'm not "going my own way" at the moment, the idea is sound. It's damn hard to find a decent woman anymore, I just got really lucky. But I wouldn't insist that others settle for less just to fulfill a role that exists less and less these days. It's like the job market: too many workers, and too few good jobs. I don't fault someone for not wanting to work at McDonalds.

 

Problem with that, is that people usually attract people "like them"

This is the reason that women who constantly enter abusive relationships complain they can't find a "decent guy" - because they don't have self-respect and attract guys who don't respect them

So I don't have blind sympathy for men either who complain about being in 'henpecked relationships', because truth is a lot of guys who are are just being milquetoasts and letting women walk all over them, which is why they attract women who don't respect them

I'm not saying is about you - I'm saying that the majority of the MGTOW people I've seen on the internet fit this bill - they complain only about "women" but won't take any blame for being a submissive male who allowed women to disrespect him to begin with.

 

Well, if I were to base my opinion off of people from the internet, like Trammy here, I would probably have much the same opinion. But I personally know some guys who remain single, not because they're henpecked, but because they're religious people who are looking for conservative, traditional, Donna Reed types, who are in short supply these days. And as those guys get older, it gets even harder, because the types that they're looking for get snatched up early.

 

Feminists and the KKK were both instrumental in making prohibition the law.

 

I never seen that in the MGTOW forums please link to any MGTOW forums post to that. I used to go to 3 MGTOW forums regularly. MGTOW doesn't like sluts though, not sure about hating them. Elliot Rodgers was never in the MRA or MGTOW forums we're aware of. If he was maybe he wouldn't have killed all those people because they would informed them the danger of dealing with women. If I had his money I would be happy, western women as a whole are a waste of time to deal with. There is too much drama or these women just disappear on you without a word.