Michael Moore's words will elect Trump ... and he knows it

It is not whether or not Moore supports Trump. It is what he said in this clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lMp_363B2c

A beauty of truth is that anyone recognizes it ... Liberal, Conservative, Democrat, Republican.
And Truth is a most attractive thing that unites All except the tiny Few.

Thanks,
Ed

 

He has a point.

 

Michael Moore has been saying Trump will win for a while now. He knows Hillary hasn't motivated the democrats. She motivates the hard core partisan hacks, but not the other democrats.

 

Not racists and rednecks, they're actually pretty good people.

Going right aginst the narrative. His honesty here is refreshing, and appreciated.

 

Moore has simply accurately stated the mood of the Nation. We are going to elect those fkn crook Clintons

 

I doubt it will suddenly convince a bunch of people to vote for Trump.

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Crooks.

 

Could be too late. He's been saying it for 7 or 8 months now.

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You see, Trump knows her personally, he knows she's crooked. Probably why he distanced himself from the Clinton's after he wised up.

 

Ancient history from several months ago.

Moore has walked back that statement 1000 times already.

Nice try, though.

Desperation breeds delusion.

 

We already know Hillary is a crooked politician. We don't know if Trump will follow in her shoes. Wouldn't it be a wise decision for the public to vote on someone that has not proven to be corrupt yet? I would say "yes" since voting on an already known corrupt politician doesn't provide any hope for its citizens.

 

Obviously.

 

Trump's never wised up. He's just changed his colors for the sake of politics.

 

Because they were going in the wrong direction.

 

After 30 years of the Clinton's we deserve new crooks.

Patriot Wall Forming In Nevada and New Hampshire? Are our dedicated Minute-Men gearing up for an Election Day Stand against The Corporatist Crony War Monger Crook Hillary?

 

Moore said what people already suspected ... like a toothache you try to ignore.
Truthful statements like these from leaders like Moore do sober up a section of his followers who happen to actually care for other people.

Of course, like in any other group, there are people who do not give heck for anyone but themselves.
Nothing can convince them, since they usually detest everyone and anything except the image in a mirror.

 

Not me. I agree with these carefully selected words of his. I just don't think it's going to sway many voters at this point.

 

I disagree, I think Moore coming out with this is an atomic blast against Hillary. Moore is clearing the path to make it ok to support Trump for those on the fence and especially the sanders crowd who got completely mowed down by the Rich and Powerful DNC.
Anyone struggling at the moment to find work, pay bills, pay healthcare would have to be out of their minds to vote for Hillary. Moore coming out with this tells me he puts the country first over his ideology. A+ for him. People on both sides of the aisle are tired of getting (*)(*)(*)(*)ed over by the establishment on both sides. Trump is literally the last chance to fix this. Moore sees this, good for him.

 

Moore should side with Trump, I think, given his statements about jobs and the economy in the past, but...

http://www.snopes.com/michael-moore-endorsed-donald-trump/

Immediately after the above-displayed clip ends, Moore goes on to say that Trump voters, like Brexit voters, will soon regret their decision:


[Voting for Trump will feel good] for a day. Maybe a week. Possibly a month. And then. Like the Brits, who wanted to send a message, so they voted to leave Europe only to find out that if you vote to leave Europe you, actually have to leave Europe.

And now they regret it. All the Ohioans, Pennsylvanians, Michiganders and Wisconsinites of Middle England, right, they all voted to leave and now they regret it.

And over 4 million of them signed a petition to have a do-over, they want another election, but It's not going to happen. Because you used the ballot as an anger management tool. And now you're (*)(*)(*)(*)ed. And the rest of Europe. They're like, Bye Felicia.

So when the rightfully angry people of Ohio and Michigan and Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin find out after a few months in office that President Trump wasn't going to do a damn thing for them, it will be too late to do anything about it.

But I get it. You wanted to send a message. You had righteous anger. And justifiable anger. Well, message sent.

Goodnight America. You've just elected the last president of the United States.


Michael Moore certainly did not and would not endorse Donald Trump. In fact, a few days before this item went viral, Moore said that voting for the Republican presidential nominee was akin to legal terrorism:


No. No. First of all, I make it very clear: I wrote a chapter in my very first book 20 years ago [1996's Downsize This!] called "My Forbidden Love for Hillary." There's nothing to come around on. I was for Hillary before Hillary was for Hillary. I didn't go to convert Trump people. I did not want the racists or the crazies in there or we would have never gotten the show done. But we went to union halls and guys that I grew up with — people who normally vote Democrat who are thinking of voting for Trump. That is a huge chunk of the population, especially where I'm from. So I wasn't there so much to convert them away. I don't think a lot of them necessarily decided for sure that they were going to vote for him. But I want them to think about the damage they could do by being a legal terrorist on November 8th.

 

Try again, and this time keep up with reality Andy. Now try some of that googling so you know the difference between days and months ago.


At a recent promotional event for his new film “Michael Moore in TrumpLand,” Moore told audience members that he thinks the loudmouthed GOP nominee is going to win, largely because American elites are so cut off from regular people that they don’t realize just how much the middle class has been harmed in recent years.

“I know a lot of people in Michigan that are planning to vote for Trump, and they don’t necessarily agree with him,” the left-leaning documentarian said.

Many middle- to lower-income people are going to support the former reality TV star because at least he uses language directly pertinent to issues that have affected their lives, Moore argued.

“Donald Trump came to the Detroit Economic Club and stood there in front of Ford Motor executives and said, ‘If you close these factories as you’re planning to do in Detroit and build them in Mexico, I’m going to put a 35 percent tariff on those cars when you send them back and nobody’s going to buy them.’ It was an amazing thing to see. No politician, Republican or Democrat, had ever said anything like that to these executives, and it was music to the ears of people in Michigan and Ohio and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — the ‘Brexit states.’”

“Trump’s election is going to be the biggest ‘$#@! you’ ever recorded in human history — and it will feel good,” Moore argued.

Whether Trump means it or not is kind of irrelevant because he’s saying the things to people who are hurting, and that’s why every beaten-down, nameless, forgotten working stiff who used to be part of what was called the middle class loves Trump,” Moore continued. “He is the human Molotov $#@!tail that they’ve been waiting for, the human hand grenade that they can legally throw into the system that stole their lives from them.”.....snip~

http://www.salon.com/2016/10/26/mich...-and-hell-win/

 

If you really believe that Trump can win, more power to you.

From where I sit, the REALITY of the situation is that Clinton is headed to an EASY win.

But, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Carry on.

 

Yet you just got done telling us what Moore said was from Months ago. Despite it being from days ago, and yet you speak of reality? Are you trying to Josh Earnest us?

 

I think it's funny that you guys think there's any real difference between Hillary and Trump. They are both elite, dishonest, and corrupt individuals. They both consider themselves above the law and above judgment.

If Trump were a woman, he/she wouldn't be far off Hillary Clinton at all.

But you guys go ahead and keep pretending he's the anti-establishment multi-millionaire who suddenly decided to go against his own businesses interests(in an unprecedented move for him) and bring jobs back to the United States(something he has been able to do but didn't since his first branded product began being made). If he does that, he loses money, because he'll have to pay those workers actual decent wages instead of the pennies on the dollar he currently pays. He doesn't want that. He knows you do, so that's what he's going to promise you.

But if there's one thing that Trump has absolutely proven, no matter what you think of his public persona or his political stances, it's that words don't matter to him. They are just things that come out of his mouth. They carry no weight for him, they create no expectations or responsibility for him. He will say whatever he wants whenever he wants and not even be bound by any of those things he says. If he doesn't want to honor what he said previously, he just denies that he said it. Or he suddenly changes what he says the meaning of his words were.

He'll do the same to you and the rest of his supporters. Once you've voted for him, he doesn't need you anymore. Until 4 years in the future where he'll be sure to count on your support and rightfully so, because even though he's already shown you who he is for more than three decades, you're still planning on voting for him right now. There's no reason for him to assume you'd change your mind after adding a few more things to the pile.

 

Sounds like Hillary.

 

He is pretty much the white Obama at this point.

 

Absolutely.

 

Trump is not the best choice for the Liberals, but they do not really have a choice in these elections ... (and I did not have a choice at the last elections).

But I do not think it is fair to say that anything Trump says as far as jobs and economy (and similar things that benefit general population) would not really happen.
I do not think it even qualifies as an argument ... just an opinion, maybe.