Michigan Democrats criticized after dismissing parents' role in public education

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  1. Stuart Wolfe

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    In California, we cover World History in 7th grade - we can easily go over Africa and their current slave trade there. In fact, you've given me several ideas ... hmm ...
     
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    CRT is the teaching that race has an effect on our laws, and our social construct, that started from Slavery. The right has bastardized that to be "CRT teaches our kids that whites are bad for doing that", OR, "That isnt really happening today so we should not discuss it".

    They absolutely do have that right. Thats why we publicly elect school boards. What they dont have a right to is to demand unilaterally that something should not be taught.

    The 1619 project does not purport that slavery the "only reason" the US was founded. It says that the some of the success' of the US were built on the back of slavery, both physically and financially. The US was around in 1619 as a land mass that is now called the United States. The financial success of that group of people living here, who owned slaves, was a major part of the success that allowed it to fought over, thus the american revolution. "Taxation without representation".....what were they taxing ? A big chunk fo that was the money made off the backs of slaves
     
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    ORRRRRR...ORRRRRRR.....You dont.......

    hmmmmmm
     
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    You're not dealing in reality, but that's become the norm with the Left. Latinos, Blacks, and the Young are currently turning their backs on the Democrats in record numbers. We all know your faith is weak as illustrated by you running from a straight up account bet. You have no clue what will happen in 4-5 years which is what your post predicates your considering. Your post is a joke.

    Also, I own a home in Green Valley (Henderson), NV and have since 2000. It's a nice revenue stream and if Global Warming hits, I will be fine there. :banana:
     
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    Actually, the poster is right. They don't know crap about Africa Pre-1850, U.S. post slavery from Tenant Farming, Jim Crow, Civil Rights, to today's status. They have a narrative to push Marxism that parts with the reality of our history in significant ways. They even preach against Martin Luther King, Jr. with their "equity" lie that will do incredible harm to minorities and the nation as a whole.
     
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    bahahahahaha.....you do you boo
     
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    You're right. Most don't keep their word... or apparently even believe the garbage they post.
     
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    Can you dispute what I said?
     
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    YES. It has been fact checked and is correct

    You claimed we should "fact check the fact checkers".

    You made the claim, so go ahead and fact check the fact checkers !
     
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    That is CRT in colleges. It was meant for lawyers, adults, so that they could avoid the mistakes of the past. However that CRT has been abused and the teachings of it has been integrated into how children are taught.

    Actually they do. Why do you think creationism was taken out of schools? Parents. Parents started the protest against creationism being taught. Eventually it wound up in the courts.


    Actually it does. The whole thing makes it out as if there had been no slavery then the US wouldn't even exist today. It makes it out as if the white man was the sole perpetrators of slavery. (part of the reason that real scholars objected to that project is because it left out how slaves were even gotten in the first place, it even left out the fact that the first slave owner was black)
     
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    If its so correct then why is the 1619 Project being taught in 4 thousand schools? A project based entirely on CRT.
     
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    OK, Show us an example


    It was taken out from being taught as science. Creationism can be taught, just not under the auspice of science


    Nothing I have read makes that claim. If you have proof of your claim post it here I would like to read it
     
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    Good. The Democrats will lose MI by a healthy margin, because they refuse to understand the issues that led to defeat in Virginia.
     
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    It’s your job to be informed and do the research you clearly haven’t done.
     
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    I favor a reasonably responsible and modest dress code in our public schools…
     
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    Hmmm. Pretty much you are willing to pick and choose when you give freedom?
     
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    I've had to deal with girls coming in first period with their boobs almost spilling outta their - ah - "shirts" - and the boys walking behind the girls looking down their shirts as they walk by. We gotta have SOME standards here.
     
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    You contacted schools way up north and south to see how long the shadow is of a stick of the same length at the same time?
     
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    I seriously doubt you be covering each country in Africa in depth as much as the history of the US. Currently you're already viewing an entire contitent with the US. As if the US is just like Mexico. The current slave trade doesn't exist even. All there is are criminals busy with human trafficking and making those people work for it. That's happening in the US as well. While you make it seem with a thing like "slave trade" as if it's supported by the government, which is not the case.
     
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    US History - that's 8th grade. We cover it there.

    Is not slavery this huge thing we must talk about per CRT and BLM? Is it not being practiced BY Africans ON Africans? Surely the Lords of CRT and BLM would insist I discuss it, eh?
     
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    Apart from this alleged "we" part.
    It's still 1 year US history... the history of 1 country vs the history of an ENTIRE continet far larger than the US containing ... I dunno, 60 countries?
    Mexico aint the US. Egypt aint South Africa. I mean. It seems you think it's all and the same in "Africa".

    What is there to discuss about this CRT? Trump and Biden were both in their 20's when the Jim Crow laws ended. It's obvious that their white generation profited personally from it in social economical way. They are alive. And such a thing is inherited as well. Just look at the kids of Trump and Biden. They didn't get to where they are at on their own. And on the other hand we got the victims of it. That's in CRT in a nutshell. While BLM is basically about, how much are your cultural norms and values passed down by your parents? When some child practices some religion, is it because that's how the child got raised by the parents? Does it work like that when your parents are pro slave flag waving people? Does that influence how you treat people from a different race? Are people of a different race treated differently even though the law says it's a no-no? It's not hard to fill in dots.

    What is the problem to discuss this exactly? I mean... it starts to be very odd to demand it may not be mentioned in school.
     
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    WOW, whatever all that even means, really! That post is a total MESS!! Hardly even close to what CRT is or how it's being taught..
     
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    We being the teachers at my school, maybe the district - and beyond?

    World History covers the world. Sure, I can't cover every country out there but since slavery is considered the top priority at the moment, surely covering how Africa, China, and many Islamic countries are heavily engaged in the slave trade it is incumbent upon me to teach about it, eh?

    That could be in US History - 8th grade.
     
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    It was REALLY easy last year - I have teacher friends all over the world because - Teacher Forums. The kids watch us as we set it up on Zoom, watch us make sure the ground is level, measure the sticks/shadows, show it all in real time - do the math.

    Seriously, you have no idea the amount of stuff teachers do to prove a point. You need to make friends with some teachers.
     
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