Minneapolis to bring in outside help to deal with surge in violence

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  1. Hollyhood

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    Minneapolis police are bringing in outside help as they try to temper weekend violence that killed a least four people, including a college senior who was out celebrating graduation.

    Mayor Jacob Frey, speaking a day after a mass shooting downtown, said the city has asked state and federal agencies for assistance, as Minneapolis police face a shortage of officers.

    "Safety in our city has to be a priority," Frey said Sunday, calling the reinforcements "really, really critical."
    https://outline.com/8UDZdX

    The "Defund the Police" message was one of the most irresponsible campaign messages of 2020 for urban areas that were already receiving a 30-60% increase in shootings and murders. 2020 saw the number of homicides reach 20,000 people, which was an increase of 4,000 victims. The oddest part is that murders among Hispanic and White individuals were pretty stagnant, possibly down, throughout the country. Since the Defund Campaign in June 2020, Minneapolis has seen a rise in almost every criminal statistic. The murder rate in 2021 is already worse in a vast majority of major cities across the US, including Minneapolis, on top of the 64% rise in 2020.

    In Minneapolis and the whole of Minnesota, law and order is becoming the biggest campaign issue. It's even poked its head as one of the major issues in New York Mayoral Race. It's certainly become a big issue in Florida, according to local news. However, you hear almost nothing about it in the mainstream media. There's some stories on Fox addressing it, but CNN and other liberal outlets seem completely out of the loop with stories impacting the minds of voters. I think 2022 campaign issue will likely surprise Democrats in the news bubble.
    https://nypost.com/2021/05/02/minneapolis-is-becoming-murderapolis-again-and-other-commentary/
     
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Okay. Is this because of defunding or are they understaffed?
     
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    Its a real mystery isn't it? I am sure it has nothing with the 24/7 venom flung at the Minneapolis Police Department by the MSM and state/federal Democratic leaders.

    Not sure why liberals would pretend to give a damn. This is what they wanted. They should sit back and enjoys the fruits of their hard work. And most definitely protest violently if the FASCIST state or federal government send in troops to keep the peace.

    Just some white privileged kid gunned down hours before graduating with his engineering degree. I am sure he had nothing to offer the world. The fine and upstanding gangbanger that murdered him is the real victim.... amirite? The left will continue to keep building utopias and sane people will keeping moving out.

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    https://www.fox9.com/news/universit...te-on-saturday-killed-in-minneapolis-shooting
     
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    Both. The Mayor was able to pass a hiring and wage freeze resolution in early 2020, and it became effective in April, 2020. Over the course of 2020, the city cut 12.6 million from the budget without hiring replacements. https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/File/2020-00457
    https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020...rs-expected-to-leave-department-by-years-end/

    City Counsel then cut an addition $8 million to the police budget. $5 million was to pay cops for overtime. This resulted in more officers leaving the force. https://minnesotareformer.com/2020/...ses-social-services-without-defunding-police/

    It wasn't until February, 2021 that the city and its resident realized that crime was out of control. The freeze on hiring was supposed to last until the end of 2021, but the crime problem couldn't be managed. As the below court case details, the city allowed a police force of over 800 to shrink to 650. The Judge ruled that the taxpayers had standing to sue cause their tax money was being misappropriated away from police force.
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VVTCmDyMpRjTofvFTt8wD5Pqvz-U-HGB/view
     
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    Okay, that makes sense. It doesn't have anything to do with "defund the police" though.

    Of course the cops who were milking the system quit. Base salary is $90k. IIRC, Chauvin made $170k with the overtime. How did Chauvin and his wife amass over a million dollars in net worth over their 10 year marriage? Well, $80k a year in overtime can do that.

    If crime is out of control, by all means, hire more cops. Thing is, when crime isn't out of control, the cops need something else to do besides harass motorists.

    I see no reason why we can't figure out a way to be more flexible with the need for officers. A ready, trained, standby force maybe?
     
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    You could have just said you didn't know.
     
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    No. It has everything to do with defunding the police. I don't know how you came to that conclusion.

    The base salary is not 90k for an average police officer. That's probably the police chief. They make about $55-65k base, and they average about 70k for total salary. Teachers make $63k for working, or not working, half a year, so it's not that ridiculous for a Democrat-run state. They receive overtime for riots, and they definitely deserve it. And why are you speculating about Chauvin's money? The guy could have put 100k on the stock market last June, and made a cool million.

    Crime wouldn't have been out of control if they didn't defund the police.

    That's called an auxilliary force, and they aren't going to be the cream of the crop. People aren't going to hold their life up waiting for you to need them.
     
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    Why? He's partially correct. He's just missing the part about local Democrat leaders defunding the police by setting up a policy that encouraged officers to leave, but failed to replace the force with new officers until the end of 2021.
     
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    Derek Chauvin M | GovSalaries
     
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    Well, I'm glad you see it, because all I saw was some shirtless kid in a boat or something. I don't read teen magazines.
     
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    I found this little tidbit, "*Information may include where available: salary, bonuses, benefits, retirement contributions, pensions, and other financial data."

    His base salary was not 90k. The number includes all the above.
     
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    I read somewhere else he made 170k with overtime. Im not in the mood, but I posted it here somewhere. Have at it.

    The tidbit you found is a standard disclaimer. Means nothing.
     
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    I have Chauvin's tax information. If you read somewhere that he made 170k as an officer, then it was fake news. The snippet demonstrates that his base salary in 2018 was $66k. He was paid 72k in 2019 so I nailed that one. As I said, the tidbit (disclaimer) included benefits, retirement, etc, so the disclaimer was very important. Chauvin made other income from off-duty, private security work, and additional investment income. Also, the Chauvin's pension is worth around $1 million. https://minnesotareformer.com/2020/07/22/derek-chauvin-charged-with-tax-fraud-in-washington-county/

    That's pretty much it. This is a court case itemizing his income from W2 records. Unless you got something better, I'd say that about settles it.
     

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    High risk of being killed as a basic function of the job + same threat of death enhanced by a growing criminal population emboldened by progressive ideology + threat of your home and your family becoming a target of far-left terrorist cells like BLM/ANTIFA based off little more than a few well promoted doxxing Tweets + knowledge that if you have to take down a criminal some DA might choose to charge and likely overcharge you as being a murderer because its an election year + defund police initiatives resulting in the possibility that backup wont be coming when you need it most + a vast culture promoted by media and corporate interests that paint you as being a racist = less people wanting to become cops and/or stay on the job as a cop.
     
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    Understaffed ... because policemen are quitting the force, or taking early retirements. Minneapolis "city leaders" have created a hostile work environment, and did initially defund the department. The city's plan was to "transform" the department, and replace policemen with woke community interventionists. Allegedly they'd reduce violent crime through their "community outreach" and respond to any violent "mental health crisis" that arose. It'd be really funny if so many people weren't dying.
     
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    You ask this question every single time we talk about Minneapolis, and then we post the same documents demonstrating that they are understaffed because they defunded the police. How many times do we have to give you the link to the same two legal documents?
     
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    Probably every time that somebody bumps a month-old thread?
     
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    Do you think it's wrong to defund the police and take away millions from them?
     
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    The Fruit of Defunding/Demoralizing your police:

    Minneapolis police investigating bags of human body parts found on the street

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    It's likely due to inept city government. Being understaffed is a result of poor funding. People leaving the police force is a result of poor leadership.

    This is a completely avoidable problem broght on by stupidity
     
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    It's to deny the lunacy of the defund the police nonsense.
     
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    I don't recall ever asking this. Perhaps you'd be so kind as to prove it?
     
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    That captures it. This foolishness by Leftists comes with a body count. What I find amazing is that their electorates aren't throwing them out.

    Captured Neighborhoods that want safety need to succeed and form their own cities.
     
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