misconceptions about atheism

All insults and personal attacks - is this the sort of 'quality debate' you'd like to have? lols

It is rather astonishing as well as ironic, that some Christianist comes into this thread and posts exactly the prejudice I spelled out as an example in the OP, not as a joke, but meant as a serious contribution? And won't take a "No" for an answer when several atheists state that it doesn't apply to them? What's wrong with these folks?

 

My integrity is in question because you, given the opportunity to nominate any superstition that you cared to discuss, declined to name one?

How lame of you.

 

Sorry, remind me when I said that it was a monolithic event? I think you'll find it wasn't me who said that, but the man behind you - the one made of straw.

What makes you so sure there is a 'why'?

No, because I tend not to ask myself gibberish questions.

When someone alludes there's more, but mysteriously fails to provide a shred of detail about that, you're (*)(*)(*)(*) right I cry foul, as any sensible person would.

What road? When did I claim that? I think you'll find that's the straw man talking again.

You're more right then you think.

 

I think you'll find that yes, it is not the view of all atheists. Pick a view - any view, and unless that view is 'I dont believe in God', then whatever that view is, I can absolutely guarantee you that not all atheists share it. Yes, that means we have conflicting beliefs. Can you say that you share ALL your beliefs with EVERY christian in the world? Of course not - so you are exactly as lost as I. Poor, lost soul you.

 

Don't restrict him to the hundreds of sects, schisms, rifts and persuasions of Christianity, (cowboys included) let him share with the thousands of other religions too!

 

Yep, there is as much (or rather little) of a unified atheist stance as there is a universal stance everybody who believes in one god or another shares.
I don't think a reborn Christian in Dakota has much in common with a Hindu follower of Shiva in Jaipur - a Sadhu - for example.

That's another misconception, that all atheist must think or believe this, that or the other, just because they share a disbelief in gods. I sometimes am looked down upon for sharing cerain Pagan/New Age ideas or even superstitions, some atheists wouldn't touch me with a bargepole, so to speak, lol, but I am still an atheist just as they are.

 

it was not a personal attack at all...just the truth.
you ridicule a belief system and then hide behind some arcane personal attack tactic.

you think that what you SAY is above refute.
it's base line rudimentary thinking, if one decides to show it for what it is...then it's a personal attack..

make one thing clear stroll.....i attack the words written and the ideas expressed not the person so stop with the whining!!!
i also condemn infantile jabberwocky online.
i also praise genius in type...

and never do i attack the person...

you my fellow poster are being to egotistical here in this instance and have lost the edge of being unemotional in these debates .

 

twisting what i say will not make any difference in the observation .

 

How can any sane person possibly construe what I said as twisting anyone's words?

You claimed that I harbour a specific opinion, which in reality I do not, and then attacked me as if I did. It's the textbook strawman, and to then complain that someone ELSE is twisting YOUR words, is textbook hypocrisy. It's so simple that it can only be denied by a troll or a simpleton.

 

ok i'll lower my self and slum it...

i never said you said.here is the quote you obviously don't want to read.

what it means is this infantile view of Atheism you have is nothing but the beginning to something much grander and yet you think it's huge...

ok...
so then you twist this and rant away...


can we stop this stroll rstones way of debating.

 

Getting away from the god delusion can in fact be a big deal - it's a matter of personal perspective.

It has some bearing on the debate of religious truth as well, since it indicates that escaping religion can be difficult. If it weren't, it would not be such a big deal to people. I consider my abandonment of Christian spiritual blackmailing to be a big deal for me personally..

 

Well, you're right, I didnt WANT to read it. But I have read it about five times now.

And again, you're right that you never said that I said something specific, but thats completely irrelevant because I didnt say that you said that I said that thing (I cant believe you just got me to type that playground-level drivel. If you're trolling, you deserve a high five).

You did, however, state that I THOUGHT something which I have never in fact thought. That is your strawman right there.

If that means resorting to insults and strawmen and calling it 'debate', then no thanks.

 

even this dawkins guy pales in comparison to what i was indoctrinated into as a child.
True intellectual atheists armed me with thought so far superior to what you think is a big deal.

 

sooo you are not an atheist?
you don't spend your time here bashing Biblical content?

I'm confused.
Obviously you have at me at the advantage.

 

If how ever you are an atheist then it is you that is the straw man.
setting up this rant to accuse me of something that isn't there at all and then defending it ...

 

This is just another personal attack, like the post before then was as well.
There is no "idea" attacked, nothing debated, there is merely a personalised exchange with a string of put-downs presented by you.

The deep thoughts and quality debate remain empty promises... what I see is accusations and trollery.

Oh, and most of my response was ignored in the emotional personalised reaction.
Please comment:
" It is rather astonishing as well as ironic, that some Christianist comes into this thread and posts exactly the prejudice I spelled out as an example in the OP, not as a joke, but meant as a serious contribution? And won't take a "No" for an answer when several atheists state that it doesn't apply to them? What's wrong with these folks? "

 

if you insist.
it doesn't change anything.
i do not attack you but your post and lack of any original thought.

as for this trolling accusation i put it to you thusly.

create a thread and have the atheists gather .

have them each tell us about their atheism and it's ideals and philosophy.

it's not much to ask.

even if four do it i shall show you all on what you claim to be me trolling.

like buddhism it is something that needs to be built upon.

can buddhist thought be taught in an essay, you know better stroll.

for true insight to what the masters wanted one to know it had to be a series of teachings .

i can and will do this .

maybe the likes of dawkins will learn something other than his infantile meanderings and childish anger rants.

now i put it to you, it's in your court.

and please stop the childish deflection from the debate with these diatribes about personal attack and trolling...

lets do it.

 

whats wrong with these folks ...is this the type of personal attack you refer to?

as for the rest of what you just posted, it does't pertain to me at all.

 

You must be confused indeed. I am an atheist, but I do not spend the majority of my time here bashing the content of the Bible. You can check my posting history if you don't believe me.

Remember this? You said I was "someone that thinks not believing in God is some monolithic event". You did say that, right? Well, it's not true. I, like everyone else, was born atheist. Unlike most people, my family didn't teach me about religion, so I grew up continuing to be an atheist. It's no big event to me, it's completely normal.

However, you said that I think it's a big thing. I don't. Therefore that's a strawman.

Do you honestly lack the comprehension to understand that?

 

Isn't it odd how one poster with little to add but accusations, misrepresentaions and personal attacks, is so successful in hijacking a thread?

 

The way to deal with someone who is seeking attention with a display of ill manners is to ignore them. Being an enabler makes a person no better than the one who is being abusive.

 

Is it that hard to answer? LMAO

Or don't you have an answer? I showed factual information from reliable sources. Why should I have to search every answer ever given about a topic? I should not have too. Obviously my sites stuck such a nerve no atheist wants to address it...so excuses are made.

 

People keep using that word "obviously". I don't think it means what they think it means.

 

i stand corrected.

 

They can always serve as an exemplar of the thread topic.