Misconceptions Based on Race, 'Genetics', et. al.

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  1. ElDiablo

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    Wrong............genetics determines race and intelligence.....just like it determines sexuality, hair color etc.etc. and so on and so forth...all the latest genetic research confirms that................look at the average i.q. scores of the various nations..some are at the top some are at the bottom.

    Nature designed it that way most likely because we need a division of labor....if everyone was a einstein who would collect the garbage, aka do the dirty work, take the lowing paying jobs...........no advanced society can exist without a division of labor which is dependent on all dose dumb folk...too stupid to do anything but menial woiik.....look out your truck is pulling out...ya dont want to be late for woik. hahhaahahah

    The foolish American People selected a President from the group that has always had the lowest average I.Q. ....yet they complained George was stupid...........bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa This says two things about them if not more..........number one they do not have a clue as to which races are the most intelligent....number two they are gullible .....let the media hoodwink them into thinking obama was some kind of genius.....with a i.q. off the charts....how many times did Chris Mathhews give us dat message. Weke up peeps.
     
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    I answered my own question by asking how Asian children raised in vastly different environments have the same IQ?

    How?
     
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    You prove one thing....the proclivity of just about everyone to make up their own definition of race....which of course renders the term meaningless in any serious way.....essentially the term has just become a political tool to demonize ones political enemies....research the origin of the term ...it has only been around for a few decades and the orginial meaning from the Oxford English Dictionary (the belief that race determines characteristics) was altered by liberal jews circa 1958 to allow it to be used as a political weapon....motivated by what happened to them under hitler....but the reality today is that it is used mainly by liberal enemies of the jews and most of America....in a perverted attempt to promote the fallacious idea that all are equal. That is why the modern liberals hate the Jews...they fear they may be superior and that rankles them no end.
     
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    Well, you both are partially correct...you being much more correct than your antagonist.............intelligence according to the latest research is determined mainly by genetics ---up to 75% is determined by genes. Culture plays a secondary role...influencing intelligence up to 25 percent.

    Twin studies prove this.

    Genetics determines the higher and lower possibility of ones i.q.....culture determines the exact point on this scale where your intelligence rests.
     
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    this liberal belief in fairness is extremely fallacious...........life is not fair....once you realize this then you know what you are really up against. Children are usually the ones complaining about a lack of fairness. Life is not about fairness....life is about whoever git dere first wid da most win da battle. If liberals understood this America would not be so mucked up.
     
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    No one is equal............equalism is a fallacious liberal concept.
     
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    Answer is they do not
    Go to some primitive hill tribe abd give them an iq test
    Or go to a poor villiage in china
     
  8. Egalitarianjay02

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    These kinds of comments just show your extreme racism. Even if racial differences in IQ were caused by genetics they would only be average differences. There are obviously intelligent Black people and Obama is one of them. Are you really so deluded as to believe that Americans should judge Obama's intelligence based on his race? Obama is a highly intelligent individual. You can tell by his vocabulary, reasoning and knowledge that he is highly intelligent. His academic performance is also evidence. He graduated from Harvard with high honors. If you looked at his track record as President you would see that he has kept the majority of his campaign promises and America is a lot better off with him as President than it was under Bush.

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    You are a racist Obama hater and you need to get your facts straight.

    First of all every word ever used was made up at one point in time. That is the nature of words. So it doesn't matter if the word racist was made up recently, what matters is if it has utility. If you look up the etymology of the word racism you see that it comes from a French author in reference to Nazi theories and replaced words like racialism and racialist. Of course racism, meaning hatred or intolerance based on race, has existed for several centuries and bigotry has existed since the dawn of man. The word racism is only perceived as a political weapon to those who do not like the word. If you are so afraid of the word that you have to engage in sophistry to deny its meaningfulness it must have great power in your mind. I personally find the objection to the usefulness of the word racism to be ridiculous. Let me show you how absurd your logic is....imagine for a moment that everyone who didn't like a word being ascribed to them justified their behavior and trivialized the meaning of a word by denying its legitimacy.

    Imagine if a rapist said: "The word rapist has been used as a political weapon by feminists to silence people who have a different opinion on sexual behavior."

    - Would anyone take that seriously? Most people would be appalled and tell you that whatever we call forced sexual intercourse it is morally wrong and we need to demonize and punish people who do it.

    Racists get away with being racist because we don't charge people with thought crimes. You are allowed to believe whatever you want including hating whoever you want. But thankfully we have made racist discrimination illegal. You are not allowed to act on your racism. If you attack someone with a racist motivation you will be charged with a hate crime. If you deny someone a job because of their race you will be charged with workforce discrimination. Racism exists and has been the motivation of horrible atrocities including genocide, slavery and terrorism. Racism is a word defined in the dictionary. We have dictionaries to inform the public of the meaning of words. More importantly it has utility. It describes beliefs and behaviors that decent people regard as reprehensible. It is not some word designed by imaginary sinister Jews as a political weapon against people with controversial opinions on race. Racists exists. Racists have an agenda. And people like me will resist you every step of the way in your crusade to make racism socially acceptable again.
     
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    Regarding obama's intelligence.....he has slightly above average intelligence(106 i.q.) the point being though the mainstream media led the voting public to believe he was some sort of genius.

    Then you say 'if' intelligence was determined by genetics....as if there is some question? Absolutely no doubt about it...you have been presented with the scientific evidence(twin studies for one)...you simply do not want to believe it....yet you claim you believe in science....how did you miss the big story of the past few days...scientists discovered the genes that determine intelligence...it was all over these boards...i guess you don't believe that either. Yet you have no problem believing stuff you imagine...maybe cuz you live in an imaginary woild?

    Obama is not a black, to be precise he is a mulatto...having of course a white mother. It is well known that mulattos generaly speaking are more intelligent than the average black.

    Obama cannot give a speech without a teleprompter....he has made countless gaffes....the only reason his ignorance is not more well known is the fact the media covers for him....look how the media lynched sarah palin but obama has made lots more gaffes than she ever did....in fact she was usually proven correct.

    Obama was not qualified academically speaking for any prestigious university...he only got in because of affirmative action....it has been shown how he got to be president of harvard law review....strictly by politics ...it has been presented ...again you are not either reading the board or you want to pretend like you dont know.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/affirmative.asp

    The rest of your comments are even less worthy of response....I will leave it to others if they want to waste their time dealing with your hillarious statements about obama.
     
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    What scientific means did you use to gauge Obama's IQ as 106?

    You misrepresented what I said and are repeating the same garbage over and over again. I said IF racial differences in IQ were caused by genetics not if intelligence were determined by genetics. Intelligence is determined by genetic and environmental factors. Racial differences in IQ are entirely caused by environmental differences. I provided plenty of sources backing up my claim. The discovery of "IQ genes" in no way invalidates this point.


    Mulatto is just a racist word made up by White Supremacists to label person's of mixed race. In America Black-White biracial people have experienced anti-Black racism and are traditionally viewed as Black. So when a biracial man becomes President of the United States doing something positive he is all of a sudden not Black? Nope. If Obama were in the news from some criminal activity you would regard him as Black. Denying his Blackness is just racist hypocrisy on your part.

    I already dealt with the claim that White ancestry makes Blacks smarter. That claim was debunked by the research of Richard Nisbett. Go ahead and read the article.


    HEREDITY, ENVIRONMENT, AND RACE DIFFERENCES IN IQ A Commentary on Rushton and Jensen (2005) Psychology, Public Policy, and Law
    2005, Vol. 11, No. 2, 302–310


    Sarah Palin is stupid. She didn't just make gaffes she possessed a complete ignorance of basic facts. All politicians make gaffes. Most of Obama's gaffes are slip of the tongue. For example do you really think Obama believes there are 57 states? That's like saying he doesn't know his ABCs. He misspoke. Palin on the other hand didn't know that South Africa was a country on the continent of Africa. How dumb can you be?

    That is a lie. He did not get in because of Affirmative Action and he graduated from Harvard with high honors which means he got good grades. This is an established fact.
     
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    http://content.time.com/time/specia...packages/completelist/0,29569,1887005,00.html
     
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    List of obamas blunders etc.


    http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-...obamas-scandals-misdeeds-crimes-and-blunders/
     
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    baseless nonsense
     
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    Obama was an unremarkable student and that he benefited from affirmative action.

    1) As reported by The New York Sun: “A spokesman for the university, Brian Connolly, confirmed that Mr. Obama spent two years at Columbia College and graduated in 1983 with a major in political science. He did not receive honors…” In spite of not receiving honors as an undergrad, Obama was nevertheless admitted to Harvard Law. Why?

    2) Obama himself has written he was a poor student as a young man. As the Baltimore Sun reported, in: “‘Obama’s book ‘Dreams from My Father,’….the president recalled a time in his life…when he started to drift away from the path of success. ‘I had learned not to care,’ Obama wrote. ‘… Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it.’ But his mother confronted him about his behavior. ‘Don’t you think you’re being a little casual about your future?” she asked him, according to the book. ‘… One of your friends was just arrested for drug possession. Your grades are slipping. You haven’t even started on your college applications.'”

    3) Most damning to me is the president’s unwillingness to make his transcripts public. If Obama had really been a stellar student with impeccable grades as an undergrad, is there any doubt they would have been made public by now and trumpeted on the front page of the New York Times as proof of his brilliance? To me it all adds up to affirmative action.

    http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/12891/
     
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    member of MENSA and graduated sume cum laude from Harvard Law?

    sounds a lot more remarkable than all of us.
     
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    If you search my name "EgalitarianJay" you will notice that I posted in the comment section of this blog. This blogger was persuaded by the research of Rushton to believe that racial differences in IQ were caused by genetic differences. I showed him as I am showing you that this belief is false. I outlined the problems with Rushton's work here.

    If you want a detailed critique of his evolutionary theory and an overview of the psychometric research that refutes his arguments read these two articles:

    1) What a tangled web he weaves: Race, reproductive strategies and Rushton's life history theory Anthropological Theory 2002; 2; 131 (2002)

    2) HEREDITY, ENVIRONMENT, AND RACE DIFFERENCES IN IQ A Commentary on Rushton and Jensen (2005) Psychology, Public Policy, and Law
    2005, Vol. 11, No. 2, 302–310
     
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    You have been deceived.........................Obama is not and never was a member of Mensa....all of his school records are sealed....although the other modern presidents school records are part of the public record. He himself said his i.q. was only in the 120 range...experts on estimating i.q.s of famous people say it is closer to 106.

    In a rare moment of honesty he also admitted affirmative action helped him.

    http://www.cashill.com/intellect_fraud/obama_makes.htm


    http://empirenews.net/president-obama-scores-102-on-iq-test-lowest-in-presidential-history/
     
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    Those links do not work.
     
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    He graduated from Harvard Law with high honors. What part of that do you not understand? Obama was an exceptional student.

    Obama only completed two years at Columbia. He was not eligible for Latin honors.

    No, he admitted that he was unmotivated not that he was a poor student. Here is a more detailed quote from the book (emphasis mine):

    What I take from that conversation is that Obama was not the best student he could be in high school because he distracted himself with drugs. His grades slipped but as he himself says he was not failing. He was not a bad student. In fact he got his act together and fulfilled his mother's prophecy by graduating with high honors from one of the most prestigious schools in the country. Obama has good genetics for intelligence. His father graduated from Harvard with a degree in Economics and his mother had a degree in Anthropology. Obama surpassed both of them in academic performance and life accomplishment. He is clearly a highly intelligent individual and was a good student on college.

    This is nothing but speculation. It is rare and unnecessary for a President or Presidential candidate to release their college transcripts. Remember that Bush's transcripts were leaked. The fact is that Obama graduated from Harvard with high honors proving conclusively that he was a good student.
     
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