Misconceptions Based on Race, 'Genetics', et. al.

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by DarkSkies, Jul 29, 2015.

  1. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Racist and bigotry in this day and age just show just how ignorant some people are and this goes both ways.

    But when I see Politician's using it as a rallying call...it makes me sick.

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  2. goody

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    Since you mentioned, I would like to learn more about why majority of people throughout history coming up with math theories, political theories, ideologies, science theories, chess openings, chess champions, or other related stuff helping development of today's modern society are all white. I am not asking it with a negative intention, just want to approach to the matter with a different perspective. Does it have anything to do with education? Does it have to do with "climate" ? What is it?
     
  3. DarkSkies

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    I'm actually a little surprised to see this here because this is a positive stereotype. If you are interested in theories in response to your question, I'd like to share a thread where plenty of theories were thrown in.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/402873-coincidence-white-men-made-top.html
     
  4. rayznack

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  5. DarkSkies

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    Well...someone did mention epigenetics. You could always try and run your idea(s) through the ringer and offer up something verifiable in that thread.
     
  6. rayznack

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    Why do you suppose European Jews outperform non-Jewish Europeans and Middle Eastern Jews in various abilities and achievements?

    And have you ever considered the intelligence profile of Northeast Asians, Whites and European Jews?
     
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    As tempting as it is to answer these questions, I would like to maintain the dedication of this thread to addressing misconceptions and stereotypes that I believe are wrong. Given the status of (positive) perception of Jews, Asians, and Europeans, in the world and in this ^^ post I feel no need to address these questions in this thread.I'll keep an eye out in case you decide to start a thread on these questions though.
     
  8. rayznack

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    Do you think the stereotypes of jews and northeast Asians having iq and successful is a misconception?:smile:
     
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    My wording was terrible...
     
  10. Egalitarianjay02

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    The obvious answer is that cultural factors are the cause of the intellectual success of these groups.
     
  11. rayznack

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    So you have evidence or a coherent theory why it it obvious European Jews have far higher IQ than Europeans and non-European Jews?

    Why Northeast Asians have high mathematical visual spatial and mathematical ability but lower comparable verbal reasoning?
     
  12. ElDiablo

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    Liberals always tend to focus on cultural influences when it is obvious and has been obvious for a very long time that genetics determines intelligence. Now of course this does fit the liberal narrative which loudly proclaims that all peoples are equal...that no race is more intelligent than any other race and that i.q. tests are meaningless etc. etc. and so forth.

    Interestingly I stumbled across this today>>>scientists have discovered the 'intelligence genes'.

    Researchers have believed for some time that intellect is inherited with studies suggesting that up to 75 per cent of IQ is genetic, and the rest down to environmental factors such as schooling and friendship groups.
    But until now, nobody has been able to pin-point exactly which genes are responsible for better memory, attention, processing speed or reasoning skills.

    Earlier this year a team at King’s College London discovered that up to 65 per cent of the difference in pupil’s GCSE grades was down to genetics, after analysing genetic data from, 12,500 twins.


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/sci...elligence-genes-discovered-by-scientists.html
     
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    It should be obvious that intelligence is the key...but education is critical as well as a culture that values education. That is why Jews excelled under the German Education system before the nazis came in and shut it down. In fact Jews always excel in any culture that has good schools as well as East Asians in particular both groups have been shown to have higher i.q.'s than any other group.

    It is interesting to take a look at the average i.q.'s of each nation.

    https://iq-research.org/en/page/average-iq-by-country
     
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    I do agree...

    And I am almost 100% positive that one of the reasons Jews got massacred in Germany is because they had already figured everything with the "system", right in the middle of Europe, much more faster and effective than any other Germans or other ethnics. This was unacceptable not just because they were Semite or something but rather because the world elite's plan to use them in the Middle East to turn "tribal no mad Arab population" in to some sort of western style urbanized societies, because the coming up century, the new millennia, would require establishment of stereotypical society in all round the globe. This society should be; "urbanized, obeying to Authority, working 9-5, having a 2 class structure, being recorded, documented, filed everywhere, consuming accordingly, populated less, travelling less, and educated the same" So tell me, before Israel, can those in the Middle East be adapted to this? I don't think so.

    This is not conspiracy, just observation.
     
  15. DevilMayhem666

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    I guess you never heard of fetal alcohol spectrum disorder being the leading cause of mental retardation.
     
  16. Moriah

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    Or why ALL of the above groups have lower athletic ability than Blacks?
     
  17. Moriah

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    But can they play basketball?:smile:
     
  18. rayznack

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    No, the smaller brain volume blacks have grants them more muscle attachments in their head and neck cascading through the rest of their body. Additionally, west African blacks have higher percentage of fast twitch muscle fiber than other ethno-racial groups.
     
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    Does the smaller brain volume also account for the fact that Black men usually have bigger penises? Just curious.:nana:
     
  20. Moriah

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    I guess Rayznack doesn't want to get into the penis stuff. It's OK. I understand.:truce:
     
  21. ElDiablo

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    and of course we all know white men can't jump....so it is all a matter of priorities.....and obviously our society does not have a high priority for intelligence...in fact this society attempts to downplay it and thus China continues to zoom ahead whilst we are going backwards....at least in regards to the working classes...the elites will do well irregardless.

    Kinda funny to see some on here get so upset at the mere thought that Chinese are more skilled and intelligent than Americans.....this has been well known for a long while now.

    If you look at the i.q. chart for the nations and the average i.q. score for each nation America is below average intelligence and comes in 10th in the world rankings of intelligence. Now I will not bother to mention why...the racial composition of our society etc. Too controversial for this board to deal with.

    Anyone interested in this matter should read "I.Q. and the wealth of Nations"....which explains how intelligence is vital to the economic well being of any nation.

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/a-few-thoughts-on-iq-and-the-wealth-of-nations

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...NjuAlAS3MRdaYynew&sig2=t6fshc8uhle6nuChw2FssQ
     
  22. ElDiablo

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    Mental retardation is a seperate issue from the general intelligence of a population. All groups have cases of retardation. Now due to the excessive consumption of drugs in America we may have more than a lot of countries....haven't seen any statistics on that.
     
  23. DarkSkies

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    ElDiablo, the topic may be too controversial for the board, but it is fair game in this thread. Just expect people to offer counters, especially me, as to why they may believe the ideas you present are wrong and present the ideas as respectfully as you can muster (retain the spirit of the thread).

    Btw, the intelligence talking point is pretty flawed imho.
     
  24. ElDiablo

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    This thread is part of this board....so we shall see how long before posts are deleted or the thread is deleted or moved.....you post is rather incoherent ...you talk about my ideas are wrong but you offer no counter argument....so what is your point? Try and be specific and as coherent as you possibly can be.
     
  25. DarkSkies

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    I'm assuming you want to make an argument that suggests that the reason why the US IQ is below average is because some/a non-white group is bringing it down.

    I believe that you cannot scapegoat minority demographics for a sorry U.S. intelligence quotient.

    Many U.S. companies opt to offshore because Americans lack the skills and talents to keep them here. With this country being majority white, it is basically more of an indictment on them more than anyone else. With plenty of majority/all-white schools and communities, one would think that talent would be a dime a dozen, given their "high IQ." That's not the case. CEOS are making the case that there simply isn't any, let alone enough, talent in the US.

    FYI, some companies will solicit doctors and other talented people from the darkest places in Africa despite the areas supposedly being far lower in IQ.

    Another thing. IQ tests are fundamentally flawed. They fail to measure many types of intelligence and frankly it simplifies the abilities of the human brain.
     

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