Modern Jews have tiny genetic link to ancient Israel

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    European and American Jews who colonized part of the Middle East have very little claim to “Israeli” land based on actual lineage, as noted by this Ancestry.com blog entry:

    I took the DNA test and it came back as British Isles, and Eastern European Jewish and some minor ant of something, but nothing from Israel or the Middle East. How can I be a Jew with no connection to where all Jews originate from?

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    The markers of this mixed European-Middle Eastern population [Ashkenazi Jews] are different (although with slight overlap) than those associated with populations that have remained in the Middle East.

    As most Jewish ancestry searches reach a dead end in Europe, that “slight overlap” is a rather tenuous link. Most Jews from America and Europe can claim to be from the Tribe of Israel as much as Elizabeth Warren can claim to be from the Tribe of Navajo, and maybe less so.

    Source: https://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2017/07/21/is-ancestrydna-helpful-for-jewish-genealogy/
     
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    That is false
    Most Jews have similar dna to Lebanese etc
     
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    Have you a source ? Is it as true for ashkenazi and sephradic jews ?
     
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    I will post later a few sources
     
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    The female line is European of Italian converts

    the male line is more Middle East
     
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    Sorry, the science is in.
    80% of Jewish men can trace their ancestry back to what is called Palestine today.
    Indeed, we can detect one of the tribes of ancient Israel - the Levites, through the
    Jewish surname Cohen. Over 100 generations ago more than half of all the Jewish
    Cohens in the world were in one person, Moses' brother Aaron.
     
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    Source?
     
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    Google 'DNA Jew hapoltype' and you get heaps.
    Google 'DNA Cohen Jew Levite' and its even more interesting.
    :)

    nb let's go even further. The bible stated that the Jewish people would
    lose their nation with the coming of the Messiah. But in the latter days
    when the Gentiles time is "fulfilled" the Jews would return from nations
    that had been their "graves" and take back Israel with the sword.
    Back in 1900 even most Jews would have mocked such an idea. But
    here we are with modern Israel - and a Jewish people who are more or
    less still one - despite most peoples vanishing after at most five generations.
     
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    I'm not here to do your research. If you have scientific evidence, post it.
     
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    He's obviously done his research ... he gave you a simple frickin Google search that displays numerous scientific sources for the claim ... man the **** up or go back to Stormfront ...

    quick edit: you have the balls to use Ancestry.com as your source? ... that's too rich ...
     
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    Here's how it works: If your mother is Jewish you are Jewish. End of story.
     
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    White Jews have mix of Italian , German , Turkish and Middle eastern
     
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    They have long faces ..kind of horsey looking
     
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    That's NOT the end of the story. You could be a Pentecostal woman who converts
    to Judaism - therefore your kids are "Jewish"
    But being Jewish has two meanings - religion and DNA.
     
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    So Timothy Chalamet is Jewish ! !!
    He is better symbol than Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein
     
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    Sorry, I don't know who Timothy Chalamet is.
    Being a genetic Jew doesn't say anything about your character, just your DNA.
     
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    He is that new Hollywood pretty boy that all the women love
    He can act
    See “ Besutiful boy “
     
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    So would it be like having roots back to the Mayflower? So if I converted to Judaism this July would I be less of a Jew than a Jew with genetic roots back to Succoth?
     
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    Sure, that's how genetics work. The further back your conversion to Judaism
    the more Jewish genes you possess.
    Read an interesting article recently which states that converts don't stay Jewish
    like Jewish people stay Jewish. Something about the average conversion giving
    the Jews a "Jew" who on average stays a "Jew" for 2 or 3 generations.
    But Jews in Rome, for instance, are Jewish back to the Roman empire. And
    strictly Hassidic women had a degree of marital fidelity which would be hard to
    believe in our adulterous society - just a few indiscretions would have thrown
    out completely the Jewish haplotype studies.
     
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    JEWS tend to have similar DNA to Italians, Greeks, Lebanese etc.... There is strong Middle East genes in the men and strong Italian and Greek in the women
     
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    In the USA: outside of NYC... Most Jews look like regular white folks do to intermarrying and the Jews of the USA will die out
     
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    True. But the devil is in the details.
    Of course there's a "middle east" component - that's where Jews come from.
    And of course there's going to be Italian, Spanish, German etc because Jews
    were in these countries for centuries.
    But... there's still that Jew gene (haplotypes) no Gentiles possess. And any
    Jew called Cohen. Cohan etc has a 50% chance of being distantly related
    to Aaron, brother of Moses. This was the Levite tribe which we can see today.
    There of course would be the other eleven tribes, but we wouldn't know their
    "genetic signal".
     
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    Happens a super lot. The ten missing tribes are probably Arabs today.
     
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    Levite tribe?? Are those the Ashkenazi or the Middle Eastern JEWS.
    Also is some Turkish Khazar DNA mixed in with AShkenazi I am sure of. Not much.

    What tribe is Ethiopian Jews ?? Israel does not treat them nicely
     
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    Many of the white JEWS I grew up with hand similar looks ??
    Dark curly hair
    Long skinny faces
    Short and thin
    large noses
    Horse like face.. I have seen these horse like faces before among some Arabs
     

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