More countries cut funding to UN agency after staffers accused of participating in Oct. 7 Hamas atta

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  1. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which is why Israel is shooting itself in the foot. Yes, what Hamas did was horrific. What Israel is doing is worse by an order of magnitude.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And Israeli policies brought Hamas into being.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You had no point. Everything the Palestinians do right now is out of desperation... so what is your point?
     
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    Except that was specifically my point: they aren’t doing anything out of desperation. Might want to read the whole way through, it’s literally the last sentence, and everything that was so simple to understand before that that was somehow too complicated for you all directly related to that fundamental point.

    read it again. This time, comprehend it
     
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    Our duty????
    Our duty is to the American people and not as an ATM machine for the rest of the world.
    Let's fix our own problems before giving away taxpayer money without the consent of the taxpayer.
    Here's an eye opener for you.
    Did you know the US sent $25,000 to the UK for "Support for LGBTQI Asylum Seekers in the United Kingdom"
    https://www.foreignassistance.gov/cd/united kingdom/
    And another $25K went to France for "Language as a vector of socio professional integration"
    https://www.foreignassistance.gov/cd/france/
    But worst of all is the $151 million we send to India. The same India that is launching missions to the moon, has a huge army, nuclear weapons, has just spent $96 million on a temple and has wedding celebrations that can cost up to $86 million.
    https://www.thenationalnews.com/lifestyle/family/2023/01/20/indian-weddings-most-expensive/
    If they won't help their own impoverished people why should we?
     
  7. Bob Newhart

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    U.S. should just leave the UN altogether in that case. Leave the UN security council. That will teach them.
     
  8. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, when we funded the people slaughtering innocents, it is absolutely our duty. We OWE it to the American people to ensure our tax dollars are not spent on ethnic cleansing. I know I expect it from my government to do the right thing abroad.
    All that money you mentioned is a drop in the bucket for what we are giving the Israelis. I'm fine with cutting funding to the Israelis to give that money to rebuilding Palestine.
     
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    ????? Israels existence, not policies brought Hamas into being. And it is Islam that brought Hamas into being, in response to that existence. Hamas Charters opening passage.

    "Ye are the best nation that hath been raised up unto mankind: ye command that which is just, and ye forbid that which is unjust, and ye believe in Allah. And if they who have received the scriptures had believed, it had surely been the better for them: there are believers among them, but the greater part of them are transgressors. They shall not hurt you, unless with a slight hurt; and if they fight against you, they shall turn their backs to you, and they shall not be helped. They are smitten with vileness wheresoever they are found; unless they obtain security by entering into a treaty with Allah, and a treaty with men; and they draw on themselves indignation from Allah, and they are afflicted with poverty. This they suffer, because they disbelieved the signs of Allah, and slew the prophets unjustly; this, because they were rebellious, and transgressed." (Al-Imran - verses 109-111).

    Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol, Maybe you should review what Israel is saying about Gaza. Its a hell of a lot worse than any of that. Not to mention their plans that they are preparing to settle Gaza. They've already got it all divvied up. You can argue and moan all you want about Hamas propaganda, but it is Israel that is actually destroying the Palestinian people, not the other way around.
     
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    I wouldnt look to what Israel is saying to determine what brought Hamas into being. Ill listen instead to what the Palestinians who brought Hamas into being, as to their motivations and purpose.
     
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    UNRWA was created by Israeli’s who are racist bigot genocidal Sons of Satan. They did so because they didn’t want UNHCR taking over because the Israeli’s who are bigots considered Palestinians to be subhuman.
     
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    There was no Hamas terror attack.

    Tons of Israeli terror attacks though.
     
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    The U.S. definitely doesn’t owe Israel a damn thing.

    Yet, we still hand them trillions of dollars . . .
     
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    It may surprise you to learn that an infant Hamas was aided by the Mossad because they wanted it to oppose the PLO and Arafat.
     
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    Not at all.
     
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    More countries are cutting funding to Israel because of their genocidal regime also.
     
  18. NMNeil

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    The Constitution of the United States
    Article I, Section 8, Clause 1:
    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; . . .

    So how is giving the hard earned money from the American taxpayers to foreign countries providing for the common defence and general welfare of the United States?
    Especially for such things as helping Greenland develop it's economy
    https://www.usaid.gov/greenland
     
  19. Josh77

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    What does any of that have to do with anything I said? We have funded the slaughter of innocents. The right thing to do is put an end to the slaughter and help the people that are left. Quoting the constitution has nothing to do with anything.
    Doing what is right for humanity will do more for providing for the common defense than anything we've done since WW2.
     
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    It has everything to do with the issue and you do realize that the taxpayer has been giving money to Palestine since 1948. I think 78 years of welfare is enough.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_aid_to_Palestinians
    Why is the American taxpayer giving away money to foreign countries, even those that hate the USA. When you fill in your 1040 is there a little check box with "Do you want to contribute money to foreign countries".?
    So how is giving our hard earned money away in any way aiding the common defense of the US, and who decides who gets the money?
    It's a great deal of money being given away, money that could be used for it's intended purpose, that of the common defence and welfare of the United States.
    If you want to give away your money, fine, but I want my money to stay in the US and help the American people.
     
  21. Josh77

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    You have completely missed the point. We have paid to destroy Gaza. Those are bombs that we provided killing those people. We are directly supporting the slaughter and destruction of innocents. You are giving away your money to kill the innocent.
     

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