Moscow on fire!...Russian warship "Moskva" hit by 2 Neptune missiles.

Soon Ukrainians will throw a missile at the Kremlin and P00tin and his gang will go to hell.

All over the world, this will be celebrated for days, as it was when WW2 was over.

 

Its not just any ship, its the Russian navy flagship.

Good riddance.

 

Good job quoting a terrorist who targeted women, children and the elderly. If Sherman did today what he did back then he would be hung for war crimes.

 

The "Bush League" did it and no one was hanged (not interested in speculating if they were hung).

 

Okay fair enough on the grammar. But I’m pretty sure Bush didn’t intentionally target civilians as a tactic of war like Sherman did.

 

He was a great American who was decisive in winning the Civil War and probably did more than anyone but Lincoln to destroy slavery. A photo portrait of Sherman has hung on my office wall for over thirty years.

 

Russian flagship 'seriously damaged' after blast

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He was a terrorist who almost got drummed out of the military for drunkenness, refusal to obey orders and cowardice.

Furthermore, the ONLY reason he was placed in the position he was is because the Union army was getting their asses handed to them with a 4:1 kill ratio by an inferior military whom they outgunned, outsupplied and outnumbered 3:1.

Sherman was placed in his commanding role because he demonstrated a wonton disregard for civilian life and advocated for a brutal campaign against civilian targets. Targets who were almost ENTIRELY civilian. Sherman in fact went OUT OF HIS WAY to avoid military engagements and preferred to shell and attack defenseless civilian populations. After which his men would run in, assault and rape the women, steal their livelihood, burn down their homes, barns, churches and businesses and salt their land so the women children and elderly they didn’t murder would starve to death in the coming winter.

You should be ashamed to have that terrorists picture on your wall.

 

You are confused. The drunkenness accusation was made against Grant, not Sherman. Neither was ever accused of refusing to obey orders or cowardice.
Confederate casualty rates were higher than those of Union forces.
Grant and Sherman were (and are) still studied by officer cadets a century and a half later.
The fluid mobility of Sherman's March to the Sea was cited by B.H. Liddell Hart in the 20th century as a precursor to modern armored warfare.

 

I beg to differ

https://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.c...11FF29698FCF495CF8A&gwt=pay&assetType=PAYWALL

And I’m not sure what planet you live on that you think the confederate casualties were higher. Union casualties were higher. And they outnumbered the confederates 3:1.

 

Was there loss of life? I only hear that the ship was hit, that ammunition that was onboard detonated, and that the crew abandoned it. We could assume that there might have been casualties. But I don't think that's what anybody is celebrating because it's not even mentioned.

If it was hit by Ukrainian missiles it's good news because it proves Ukraine's capability to defend itself. And it's one less piece of armament in the hands of the invading dictator.

 

As I said... I beg to differ:

“Having succeeded Anderson at Louisville, Sherman now had principal military responsibility for Kentucky, a border state in which the Confederates held Columbus and Bowling Green, and were also present near the Cumberland Gap.[d] He became exceedingly pessimistic about the outlook for his command and he complained frequently to Washington about shortages, while providing exaggerated estimates of the strength of the rebel forces and requesting inordinate numbers of reinforcements. Critical press reports about Sherman began to appear after the U.S. Secretary of War, Simon Cameron, visited Louisville in October 1861. In early November, Sherman asked to be relieved of his command.[72][73] He was promptly replaced by Don Carlos Buell and transferred to St. Louis. In December, he was put on leave by Henry W. Halleck, commander of the Department of the Missouri, who considered him unfit for duty. Sherman went to Lancaster, Ohio, to recuperate.”

 

And lol @ the fluid mobility of his March to the sea. Name two significant battles he undertook against actual rebel forces in that March. To my knowledge there was only one by a group of ragtag old men and young boys who were slaughtered.

It’s easy to be fluid and mobile when you’re just killing civilians.

 

Sherman was a criminal terrorist who deserved to be put on his knees and publicly executed for the world to see.

 

Your link is paywalled. As for casualties, your own claim makes my point. Given the Union's greater numbers their casualty rate was obviously far lower. Highest casualty rate for any single army was Lee's Army of Northern Virginia.

 

Yes, and . . . ?

 

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/civil-war-casualties
490,000 confederates killed wounded captured or missing and 596,000 unions killed wounded captured or missing.

You wanna try again?

 

Read and learn.
Sherman: Soldier, Realist, American: Hart, BH Liddell
https://www.amazon.com › Sherman-American-B-Lidd...

In this book, Liddell Hart turns his considerable talent as a military analyst to one of the great captains, WT Sherman. Specifically, he looks at Sherman as a ...

 

Your post makes my point. I don't think you understand that.

 

Sherman was talented. At logistics. He was NOT talented at command. As evidenced by nearly every single one of his engagements prior to his March on the sea being abject failures.

“Let's consider Sherman's record over the course of the war. He started out as a brigade commander at the First Battle of Manassas, where actually did reasonably well despite the overall Union disaster. Lincoln was impressed enough to promote him and send him out west, where he ended up in command of Union forces in Kentucky. Here is where Sherman's troubles began. Convinced that he was about to be attacked by an overwhelmingly superior Confederate force (which, in fact, largely existed only on paper), Sherman had a nervous breakdown. He was relieved from command and went home, where he either considered or possibly even attempted suicide. Newspapers ran articles suggesting that Sherman was insane and his superior officers considered him unfit for further duty. Needless to say, this was not a promising start for Sherman's war.

Sherman spent a few months in what amounted to administrative duty, he was brought back to the field as a division commander under Grant in the aftermath of the Union victory at Fort Donelson. In the prelude to the Battle of Shiloh, Sherman failed to take adequate precautions for defense and ignored several signs of the impending Confederate attack. Though he fought well enough during the battle itself, the fact that the Union army was taken by surprise and nearly smashed must be blamed largely on Sherman.

Sherman's next major engagement was at the Battle of Chickasaw Bayou, north of Vicksburg. In an ill-judged frontal assault, Sherman's thirty thousand troops were soundly repulsed and trounced by a rebel force less than half its size. Sherman lost nearly two thousand men, while the Southern forces suffered roughly one-tenth the number of men. All things considered, it was a miserable and humiliating affair.

In the spring of 1863, Sherman was one of three corps commanders under Grant during the decisive phase of the Vicksburg Campaign. Generally speaking, however, Sherman's corps was kept out of the way while the formations of James McPherson and John McClernard did the hard fighting in engagements such as the Battle of Raymond, the Battle of Champion Hill. The only time Sherman's corps was heavily engaged was during the frontal assaults against the Vicksburg defenses on May 19 and May 22. Sherman's troops failed to make any impression on the enemy defenses, being repulsed with heavy losses.

Sherman next played a major role in the Battle of Chattanooga in November of 1863. Grant's plan for defeating the Confederate Army was for the Army of the Cumberland under George Thomas to feint at the Confederate center while Sherman, leading the Army of the Tennessee, smashed the enemy right flank on the northern end of Missionary Ridge. Despite heavily outnumbering the Southern defenders, Sherman's attack was a dismal failure, making no gains and suffering heavy casualties (in fairness to Sherman, the opposing commander was Patrick Cleburne, arguably the best division commander in the Confederacy). It fell to Thomas to win the battle by smashing through the enemy center.

To sum up, Sherman's record prior to being made commander of the Union forces in the West was largely one of failure. At Chickasaw Bluffs, Vicksburg, and Chattanooga, Sherman was bloodily repulsed in ill-advised frontal assaults that lacked tactical imagination. He had never been the overall director of military affairs, serving only as a loyal subordinate to Grant. Other generals, notable George Thomas, had much more impressive records. It seems obvious that Sherman received the command for the Atlanta Campaign almost entirely because of his personal relationship with Grant, rather than on his own merits.”

 

No I don’t think you understand how this works. If there’s 30 of your side and 10 on mine and I kill more people than you did, who had the higher kill ratio? We had more % of casualties but that’s simply a function of you having 3 times the number of people.

Which having 3 times the number of people (not to mention an entire underclass in the blacks you used as cannon fodder... literally) should have given you such an advantage that you should have obliterated us.

 

That's just a lot of "Lost Cause" propaganda bilge. There's so much wrong that there's not space in this forum to deconstruct it. Read and learn.
A major new biography of one of America's most storied military figures. General Sherman's 1864 burning of Atlanta solidified his legacy as a ruthless leader. Yet Sherman proved far more complex than his legendary military tactics reveal.

William Tecumseh Sherman: In the Service of My Country: A Life

 

Which, in the end, is what happened. We are well off topic, so I'll not be continuing.

 

Nah they raped a bunch of women and killed a bunch of elderly people and children and burned their homes and salted their lands to leave them to starve. That’s terrorism. Not war.

Have a nice day.

 

Morse code?

BTW, this is a good way to hide a ship: claim it sunk, then it pops up somewhere. Only Russia and satellite spooks know the truth.