MSM Ignores Our Laws

Of course you saying differently is really just proof that some people really don't pay attention or purposely choose to ignore certain facts..

 

Ever hear of asylum laws? Of course not, your just ignorant.

https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum/asylum/obtaining-asylum-united-states

"To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status."

The ones who are having their children removed are ones seeking asylum.

 

Well we can extend that to people that think people claiming to be seeking asylum have some delusional idea that they are allowed to simply cross/enter at any point of their leisure and take up life in the U.S.! No registering, no proof of who or where they come from just blend in with all the other "Unknown" people.

You sir don't know a thing about asylum!

Can I Apply for U.S. Asylum If I'm From Mexico?

Do Many People Gain Asylum from Mexico?

Asylum, right And before you do it, without proper ID how does the U.S. verify point of origin beyond our borders?

 

With that logic you should be against legal immigration and birth in general. Immigrants, illegal or otherwise do not result in an increase of crime, meaning illegal immigrants aren't any more prone to committing crime than anyone else. You're argument is basically that more people = more rapes and so I'm assuming that apart from being against illegal immigration you're also against legal immigration and people making more people in general.

 

Keep moving that goal post .....

It almost makes you sound logical ......

Almost.

 

Not true, anytime a countries population is increased by immigration and those immigrant on occasion commit crimes that were not committed by the native population that is a net increase!

Now if you are trying to say "Immigrants, illegal or otherwise" then you have already disproved your own bucket of bullshit

 

I see how the right wing mentality operates in its usual manner of deflection. We are speaking of asylum seekers from countries like El Salvador where violence is rampant against common people. Now, I do not know if they have ID since many of those countries are lacking in such evidence. Matters not if you want to obey the laws here. The ones being spoken of are turning themselves in at the border contrary to your fake allegation. Then too, under American law (that which you choose to ignore) "You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status."

 

Problem you have is with reality. Illegal immigrants, and especially those in DACA, have a lower crime rate then native born citizens:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/30/upshot/crime-immigration-myth.html

 

What goal posts? Where am I moving these goal posts to? Do you even know what that phrase means because it doesn't even make sense here.

 

Illegal immigration continues all while crime steadly goes down as it has been doing for the last three decades so you do that math.

 

My post had nothing to do with legal immigration or more people=more crime.

You are side stepping the point by attempting to make some fallacious point.

That's called "moving the goal post".

You liberals do it everyday here on PF.

 

That's not the point you claim undocumented don't create more crime and in the same post prove they do

"Immigrants, illegal or otherwise"

Granted it's not all murder, drug sales, rape, gang extortion but it's certainly still a problem being address non the less!

 

Just wait ....

He'll move the goal post again.

He has to.

There is no common sense logical argument for this.

 

To funny The problem you have is your SUB-Conscience contradicts your own attempt to spin, and I find that hilarious

 

LOL ....

He's quoting the NY Times.

Call the night nurse ..... we got another one.

 

I'm waiting to read how they spin themselves out of referring to illegals as illegals

 

The MSM is there to report the news; they may not word it to your liking but it is factually true. They crossed over into our country; that is factually true. What you want is for them to describe it and editorialize it the way you want them too. That's like telling a business owner how to run his business; my suggestion is if you don't like what you see/read/hear, then find another source that you feel reports the story as you feel it should be reported.

 

They have been doing it all along.

They use the term immigrant to describe illegals.

 

LMAO .....

I couldn't get past the first sentence.

 

And we have the right to deny your request for asylum. If you don't like El Salvador's violence -- start a vigilante movement to rid your country of the bad guys -- or demand your government do something -- or overthrow your government. It's called fighting for your home country. But if you still want to leave El Salvador then why not try a country that is closer to your border? How about Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala, or even Mexico? They speak your language and have similar cultures. You know why they want to come here -- government handouts from the liberals. The word is out about the handouts and that is like a huge magnet. We don't get the successful people wanting to live here, or the wealthy people, or the professional people, we get the welfare queens and the criminals.

 

One, no it's not and two, no I didn't.

Moving the goal posts is declaring some standard needs to be met and when it is deciding a further standard in now required. For instance if said I won't believe Trump molests women unless there is evidence and then audio comes out of him saying he just kisses women and grabs them by the woohoo whether they want it or not and I come back and say well I won't believe it until he's convicted, then that is moving the goal posts.

What I did was question the reasoning behind your argument. You asked if I thought an increase in rape is ok in exchange for open boarders but since immigrants aren't the sole cause of rape or even a greater cause for rape then that argument can be used for any increase in people including legal immigration and citizen births. After all legal immigrants also commit rape and so do regular citizens. If I changed your question around a little and asked you if you still supported people having babies even though some were going to grow up and commit rape you'll see how ridiculous it is.

 

What's pathetic is the point the Just A Man is making about the propagandization of these poor children "Interviewers were upset that the practice was inhumane. Doctors said the harm to a child could last for years." are have been inflicted on millions of displaced American child of American parents that have broken laws too! The point is both are bad, but was is worse is the Left in this country doesn't give a bucket of bullshit about these children but care about the visual propaganda it provides!

As far back as you would like to go American children have suffered the same fate from stupid parents, and do you see Media outraged, HAVE you ever seen Media outraged about them? Have you seen concern here on this forum, have you every seen concern about them here? The left are the lowest form of life, MPO, they have hidden the disgrace of how the American children are harmed, how many are lost in the system, and mentally, physically and sexually abused in foster care and in the end discarded like an old dish rag at 19 to fin for themselves or in many cases graduate to the same place their parents are, prison. Interesting reading, you and the other should look in to it!

 

Ummm. We weren't talking about immigrants.

 

Look into it and don't be such a yutz. Under Obama the kids were carefully tracked and parents were tracked and if the parents were deported, the kids were reunited with them. If they were kept in prison for crimes, guardians were searched out. You can't compare the two!

https://qz.com/1275997/trumps-famil...ic-behind-taking-children-from-their-mothers/

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-immigrants-border-asylum-ice-201802305-story.html

 

Believe me I use many sources because I spent my adult years working in the news business. When someone is sworn into our court proceedings they are asked to "tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth". Is that too much to ask of our MSM who gives us half the truth? Half the truth is like a lie. The MSM makes their living with words and they are masters at wording stories to slant the stories to the MSM's liberal biases. Remember when Lynch told Comey not to refer to Hillary's investigation as an investigation but as a "matter". Smart people read the MSM and listen to their broadcast and can see through the liberal slant. Some just swallow it hook, line, and sinker.