Mueller may be winding down his investigation

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  1. AlphaOmega

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    Russia wasnt in my voting booth nor my head when I voted. Did Russia get in your head and control your vote? Thats funny.
     
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    No an appropriate response. I never once claimed to know anything more than any other member of the ouoc, and I have no idea where you are getting this.
     
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    Not accurate. Obama said they could not hack our voting systems. He never once said they could not affect vote totals with an information campaign.
     
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    Says everyone. And yet everyone also knows that information campaigns ARE effective. This is why advertisers advertise. This is why campaigns buy political ads. This is why the fossil fuel industry - to great success - launched and maintains a propaganda campaign to sow doubt about climate science.

    So your personal anecdote is pretty worthless.
     
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    hahahah your point is...we voted for trump cuz of advertisers? Lol..ok. We voted for trump because the leftists were such complete imbeciles they ran Hillary. russia and the best advertisers in the world cant beat that gift to the right on their best day. But basically lefty b mad people saw ads. lol. too funny.
     
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    My point is that some people's votes were swayed and some people who might have stayed home voted for Trump because of the Russian propaganda campaign. This is a fact that you are a fool to deny.
     
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    Your point is nothing more than your opinion. I could say the same for democrats bending over to peer pressure. Only a complete moron would vote for clinton after her track record. Thats why people went for trump. Dems couldnt have picked a better candidate to get their asses handed to on a silver platter.
     
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    No, it's a fact, shown by every method available to us to measure such things. Propaganda campaigns do have effect. The debate is open as to how much effect it had, but of course it had an effect.

    The only reason you resist this simple fact is because you fear it deligitimizes a politician you support. And so, you-- ironically enough-- undertake your own propaganda campaign. I love me some irony!
     
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    So your point...and this is laughable....people didnt vote the way you liked because of propaganda. lol. jesus. You ever ponder that Trump voters were the ones that didnt vote based on propaganda and it was the left who did? Case in point...the russia didiots are still whining about russia despite 0 factual evidence. Its a free country people are allowed to vote the way they want. sorry but youre gonna have to grow up sometime and understand you dont always get to have things your way.
     
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    Well, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that, but it's always best to post a url as proof... either way, he was big time wrong on that one, huh?
     
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    No, obviously that is what you are telling yourself in lieu of any good counter to anfact for which you have no appetite. The things I said are facts, regardless what I had for breakfast. And itnisbstill a fact that most people who voted for Trump would have done so regardless. So no, you sound crazy.
     
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    They aren't facts, and they'll never be facts. They are opinions that you(and others) hold to be true, but they're not facts. Unfortunately, because of a few idiots sanctifying these opinions we are left in a nation where you'll believe everything imaginable is tied to Putin.

    If we were led to believe them, Putin is the most powerful dictator alive.
     
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    hahhaha the things youve said are nothing more than your butthurt opinion. You have 0 way of knowing in anyone voted for trump because of russia propaganda. secondly if you actually do believe your own bullshit then explain to us how you feel about obama and zuckerberg? Seeing as how they were the leftists who allowed it.
    lastly are you taking the wager I challenged you to or will you back down from your self proclaimed facts?
     
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    Of course they are facts, as shown by every bit of evidence available to us. Information campaigns absolutely do have an effect. That is a fact, not an opinion.
     
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    A significant portion of Americans have become absolutely delirious and this is going to impact future elections. Not just while Trump is President, AFTER Trump is president. Putin/Russia now has the power to destroy the entire Republican party by 'backing' any such candidate with their facebook ads/twitter bots.

    Hell, do it one better: Support Elizabeth Warren's 2020 presidential campaign with the bots. She'll say she "denounces" it but who gives a damn, it's helping her campaign, right?

    Seriously, how is the Senate Intel Committee going to put the cookie monster back in the jar? Obama was right not to confirm anything, in terms of the damage to the country.
     
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    They are not delirious. Their fears are well founded. And this worry is further bolstered by the rousing success of similar Russian campaigns in foreign nations.

    And , if Russia undertakes a campaign to get Warren elected on 2020, then our intelligence agencies will come to the same conclusions.
     
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    *Rolls eyes*. So you've confirmed that our politics will always have the lockness monster known as Russia to contend with?
     
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    Weeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllll . . . they are probably going to be able to weasel out of it. Mueller is predicted to declare Trump technically innocent but ethically guilty. They will latch onto that as their technical out.
     
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    Maybe, who knows?. "Always" is a long time.
     
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    Mueller is heading for a wall with the Flynn situation. He knows that he has to come clean about any government misconduct regarding the plea deal or find himself in legal hot water.

    https://americandigitalnews.com/2018/07/02/latest-general-flynns-case-mueller-needs-more-time/

    This is a red herring for Mueller because it exposes the reality that it was a forced plea. And possibly based on FBI 302 tampering.

    Yep.... Flynn's attorneys asked for a speedy resolution in court today. 7-10-2018
     
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    Haha, that's all nuttery. Mueller just got all the latitude he needs from that judge, and Flynn is in survival mode. Flynn lied to the FBI and was a foreign agent, colluding with the Russians from within the Trump campaign. Oh, and Trump, knowing all the best people, made him head of our national security.
     
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    I did make my point. Quite well, I might add. I'm sure you'll figure out what it was sooner or later.

    None of us have any idea if you're a serial killer who is adept at concealing his crimes either, but without any evidence to support such a suspicion, there is no reason to even entertain such an idea. The same logic applies to Mueller's investigation. It's based on nothing but pure speculation by people who have an obvious anti-Trump agenda.
     
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    "Colluding with the Russians" AKA "diplomacy".

    Last time I checked, that wasn't a crime.
     
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    That's a pretty dumb take, but, smarter than Fauxahontas' take on Gorsuch:

    From the Twitter 'Poorly Aged' Hall of Fame:

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    It’s clear that @realDonaldTrump’s Supreme Court nominee, Neil Gorsuch, doesn’t have enough support in the Senate to be confirmed.

    1:02 PM - Apr 4, 2017
     
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    Correct, and you would sound like a fool to assert with 100% certainty that I am not. Thank you for making my point.
     

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