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and yet he was offensive... he "guessed" my skin color, because he needed to know it, in order to "analyze" my responses... which means he needed to know if I was black which somehow would "oh that explains why he's THIS way"... you understand what I'm saying? he is the epitome of racism in america... judging the merits of words, based on nothing more than color of ones skin, is an abomination... doesn't matter which way the racism goes, wrong is wrong... its never justified...

you tell me Merwen, is it right to judge someone based on their skin color, or should you judge them based on their words? skin color or words, you tell me...

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analyzing someone based on their skin color is not analyzing... its racism... just because you call racism something else, does not negate what it is...

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I've written countless threads defending cops, don't pretend to judge me because YOU are racist...

 

Had I guessed you must be successful, I am 99 percent sure you would not get offended.

Had I said, WOW, I guess you are an excellent athlete. I don't see how you could get offended but now that you admit you really have black blood, maybe that too would anger you.

The way I operate is to seek correct information. I did not judge you at all. I kept seeing a very kind pair of police officers trying to help you get it and you kept fighting them.

Yes, my son in law was also a cop. And of course attacking cops in my view is attacking my family.

I sure want to know what presumptions were made by a simple guess. A guess that turns out is quite accurate.

 

Well, the old rubber and glue thing.

You are performing sadly.

Really, is this all you have to do in life is get upset over the internet?

Had I called you a name, then you had cause to be angry. But not over some guess that turns out to be correct.

 

WHAT DOES MY SKIN COLOR HAVE TO DO WITH ANY DISCUSSION... MY SKIN COLOR DOES NOT CHANGE THE MERIT OF THE WORDS I SAY...

it seems your the emotional one since you view someone challenging your opinions as an "attack" on your family, please keep your emotions in check...

P.S. yes I would find it offensive that you think black people are good athletes because they are black, thats a racist stereotype... do you NOT understand this?!

P.S.S. also, could you take a moment to define what "black blood" is for everyone? last I took science class, there was no "black blood" but maybe you can define it for us...

 

Thanks folks for the active support.

None of us try to post to anger others. At least I give the forum credit. If a person offends, first thing you do is presume it was an accident. It was NOT intended.

That way we don't get obsessed and keep ranting and ranting for days on end.

I was being stalked. It was very creepy. Maybe next it would be trying to locate me to inflict harm.

 

Nobody told you it does.

Stop obsessing over color. I had put it out of my mind until you obsessed over it.

I am getting somewhat annoyed. Tomorrow i might show up red hot angry. Then you will find out what I get like when you make me angry.

 

go (*)(*)(*)(*) yourself you racist piece of (*)(*)(*)(*)... YOU guessed my skin color because YOU said it was needed to analyze me... THATS YOU OBSESSING OVER SKIN COLOR... YOU told me it matters so you could analyze my response, if skin color wasn't important YOU wouldn't have needed it to analyze anything... but YOU did need it... because YOU are a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing racist piece of (*)(*)(*)(*)...

P.S. WHY DON'T YOU TELL US WHAT "BLACK BLOOD" IS NOW... YOU RACIST PIECE OF (*)(*)(*)(*)

 

At the risk of repetition, I agree with you.

I apologized to the man and still he harasses me.

 

why don't you explain to all the posters on this website... what is "black blood" since you said I have it? is our blood different? or just your racism...

 

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The OP article is reactionary and overstates the situation for dramatic effect. All employers may set the terms and conditions of employment. If a person accepts those terms, they are legally obligated to follow them, religion or no religion. If they cannot fulfill the job duties as outlined, they are legally terminated.

 

I have read enuf of Robert's posts, have had one-on-one chats w/him and never once read any words of his that even hinted at racism. I really think you've totally misunderstood him and he clearly apologized to you, right here for everyone to read, not in a pm, for any offense you've taken....and to me, that speaks of having character/integrity. Give the man credit when credit is due and let it go..........

 

he "clearly apologized" and now in a followup post says I have "black blood"... another misunderstanding right? not a chance in hell anymore...

P.S. but hey let me guess, I'm misunderstanding what he means by "black blood" right, why don't you have him explain what "black blood" is for all of us, I'm all ears... its just another one of his racist remarks... dozens of them... the two I highlight only show his interest in judging me by skin color, not the words I say... you don't need to know my skin color to judge my words do you? so why does HE... because he's a racist bastard... now go ask him what on earth could justify him saying I have "black blood"... see if his bull(*)(*)(*)(*) deflection and spin can convince you that wasn't racist too...

 

I truly thank the forum posters for their very warm respect and very kind words.

I can't explain to a person who refuses to listen better than I have.

 

Robert, you said I have "black blood", why don't you explain to everyone what "black blood" means... tell us what "black blood" is Robert... is our blood not the same?

 

I wonder if they would accommodate tongue-talking in the workplace? Or burning incense, or fondling prayer beads, or chanting? They are opening up a whole can of worms by bending over for the Muslims. Employers will just take their businesses to a less PC country if this BS keeps up.

 

I feel friendly toward both of you so I would be a lot happier if you would just get along and agree to disagree in your views on this matter. IMO you are both people of good will, which is my usual basis for choosing friends.

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Gddd Dnmnm, I wish I were still in the workplace. I would love to try some of that stuff.

 

No need for a DD baseball hat if she has DD under the shirt

 

Group identity does sometimes determine the positions people take, but not always. If there was no racism still floating around in the US, Robert's question would not have had the potential to so anger you, so I guess this whole matter is proof positive it is still an issue.

 

I would love to bury the hatchet, as soon as he gives a justifiable reason for needing to know my skin color to "analyze" my postings, and after he comes up with a justifiable reason to need to know my skin color, as if judging my words are not enough for him, I would then like him to present a justifiable definition of what the phrase "black blood" he used means, and to put it in a context that somehow demonstrate its not a racist phrase... unless you would like to come up with justifiable reasons for him on both of those things... do you think you can justify why he needs to know my skin color to analyze my statements, or what black blood means, can you come up with excuses for him? so far he's never explained either of those things, he keeps dodging and deflecting and refuses to answer those two simple things...

P.S. do you think its right to judge the merits of postings on this website, based on the skin color of the person writing them?

P.S.S. and have you ever in your life found a moment when the phrase "black blood" was required in a conversation to describe a human being?

 

The Islamists are laughing their heads off at all of us, saying one unto another 'This is gonna be a walk in the park chaps!' Jesus, the West is even more stupid than I thought!

Just heard on today that there are going to be new prison units built especially for Muslims so they can't 'radicalise' other inmates! FFS this is getting scary.

 

IMO you're reacting to what you consider to be willful racism. If that's the issue at hand, two of us have stated we don't think that was the motivation for the query.

In this country, though, most people resist being stereotyped. I've seen the same reaction to questions regarding the kind of jobs peoples' parents have had.

People that post on here come from all sorts of backgrounds. Many in here wouldn't recognize a consciousness raising group if it bit them; they are depending on their own basic awarenesses, which at times will be deficient. IMO if people are of basic good will it's better to just educate them, not become enraged. Many average Americans have not had the benefit of much of any kind of professional emotional support at all, and when they're hit by this level of anger it befuddles them and makes them feel victimized.

 

so I noticed you, much like him, are not directly tackling my questions put forth, you're tip toeing around it so as to offend nobody, and I get it, YOU have done nothing wrong, and you're attempting to be peacemaker and attempt to rationalize and justify his actions, but when put into context, what you're saying doesn't apply, because he DID make it a priority to judge my response based on his assumption of my skin color and his stereotypes of that skin color... he purposely made my skin color the importance and merit to judge me on...

do you support him wanting to know my "skin color" so he can place stereotypes upon me that suit his position, rather than use the words I state to challenge me?

do you support him saying I have "black blood" and thats the reason I am the way I am? (if "black blood" isn't willful racism I don't know what it is, you tell me)

P.S. 6000+ messages, this is the first time I ever called someone a racist, because its the first time someone on here need to know my skin color, and judged me by skin color or said I have "black blood"... I've demonized BLM as a racist group countless times, I've defended cops countless times, where I saw fault I called it out on its fault, not its skin color... I never needed to know if a poster was black, white, or hispanic to judge the merits of their postings, I judged them on the content of those postings, but never skin color...

 

No, I don't support that, but it is common for average people to do things like that without deliberate malice. Prejudging people is often more an issue of using perceptions to simplify conclusions and improve communication than to paste a final judgement on others. Maybe you are seeing the question as a final judgement, though? A way of dismissing the validity of your contribution?

IMO if that is the case you are also doing it to him, by using one small piece of his behavior to categorize him as a racist.

We all do it from time to time out of inattention and laziness.

That said, I provide minimal information in here about myself because I don't want people discounting my input because of some personal characteristic or other that I have.

 

so you don't agree with him doing it, and then you deflect for him by suggesting people do that without malice... however if you read the messages HE wrote, he clearly did it with malice... because the color of my skin was going to determine if he saw merit in my statements, he judged my statements based on skin color, he did it with malice...

I am judging him based on not just ONE action or statement, I am judging it based on several statements, however I have stuck to quoting two message up until now, if you want, I can go back and get the other several messages where my skin color was discussed for his reasoning and judgement and stereotypes... I mean if it was just ONE statement, why am I now asking him to explain my "black blood" as he called it, its clear I can demonstrate this is not just a single error in judgement, but a continued ongoing effort on his behalf to make racist statements... I mean he still won't even explain how my skin color impacts anything, nor will he explain "black blood" I assume...

 

I couldn't find the "black blood" statement...I'm lacking in energy right now due to recent surgery, and most of my attention is on avoiding tearing open a 4 o 5 inch incision (larger than I expected!) but if you link to it I will read it.

Now that you've made your feelings known I doubt anyone in here will make the same mistake again...Bottom line, you can have people be guarded and walking on eggshells around you, or open and honest; it all depends on your preferences, and that is what you will tend to get in life.

Would you have felt the same if he had queried you on any other personal characteristic, such as educational level? Would that have been seen as malicious by you?