Mystery leaks (sabotage) hit Russian (Nordstream 1 and 2) undersea gas pipelines to Europe

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  1. Gateman_Wen

    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    Ya got nuthin' and you know it
     
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    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    Any idiot can post to substack. I could put a whole article on there about how space aliens are real and they run the Spanish government. Would that make it real to you?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No Jack - despite your protestations to the contrary - you can not wish away defeat .. and the tooth fairy is really your mommy .. or Daddy .. or what ever Gender Neutral Term you wish to use .. but, was not a real fairy
     
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    Who gives a **** about this pipeline? Germany didn't want it...and Russia doesn't deserve it. Nobody wants to be trade dependant on a **** stain like Russia right now.
     
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    [QUOTE="Gateman_Wen, post: 1074185982, member: 67965"]Any idiot can post to substack. I could put a whole article on there about how space aliens are real and they run the Spanish government. Would that make it real to you?[/QUOTE]

    HMMM .. I see you are not understanding what AD Hom Fallacy is. This is a fallacy where you attack the messenger rather than respond to the message .. as if the Messenger being Black changes the truth or falsehood of claim.

    So while "any idiot" can post fallacy to substack .. the fact that an idiot posted something does not make that post fallacy.

    Understanding the basic principles of logic and logical fallacies will help you to separate the truth from fiction. In this case .. it is not "Any Idiot" who wrote published these findings but Seymour Hersh .. a Stellar Journalist with a proven track record of calling out Gov't crimes and atrocity - the Gov't calling him a liar - Hersh turning out right in the end.

    But, its a free country you can pay attention to "Any Idiot" for your side of the story if you like. What is your source for information -- where does your Truth come from .. since you seem to figure your Truth is sacrosanct. Where is your propaganda comming from Gatwen ?
     
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    HMMM .. I see you are not understanding what AD Hom Fallacy is. This is a fallacy where you attack the messenger rather than respond to the message .. as if the Messenger being Black changes the truth or falsehood of claim.

    So while "any idiot" can post fallacy to substack .. the fact that an idiot posted something does not make that post fallacy.

    Understanding the basic principles of logic and logical fallacies will help you to separate the truth from fiction. In this case .. it is not "Any Idiot" who wrote published these findings but Seymour Hersh .. a Stellar Journalist with a proven track record of calling out Gov't crimes and atrocity - the Gov't calling him a liar - Hersh turning out right in the end.

    But, its a free country you can pay attention to "Any Idiot" for your side of the story if you like. What is your source for information -- where does your Truth come from .. since you seem to figure your Truth is sacrosanct. Where is your propaganda comming from Gatwen ?[/QUOTE]



    Where did Biden blow the pipes ...gifty?

    Any credible links?

    I asked you this before.

    You provided insults and air biscuits?
     
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    Where did Biden blow the pipes ...gifty?

    Any credible links?

    I asked you this before.

    You provided insults and air biscuits?[/QUOTE]

    What insult zoomer .. and what are these flatulatory air biscuits you keep referring to ... you could do with a lesson in logic it seems .. read the post you are responding to over and over until you understand what Ad Hom Fallacy is.. and then let me know when you are ready for the test.

    If you wish to know where the Nordstream is -- Google Nordstream - this will help you find things out on your own.
     
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    Where is your evidence? Misinterpreting a Biden quote won't cut it.

    CC: @Bill Carson
     
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    In my list of suspects, I had Ukraine far down on the list. Not because of motive; they clearly had the most motive, but I didn't think they had the capability to pull it off.

    Maybe I was wrong about that/

    Ukrainian officer coordinated Nord Stream attack: Washington Post

    KYIV, Nov 12 (Reuters) - A Ukrainian military officer coordinated last year's attack on the Nord Stream natural gas pipeline, the Washington Post reported on Saturday, citing anonymous sources in Ukraine and Europe.

    No one has taken responsibility for the September 2022 blasts, which occurred off the Danish island of Bornholm and ruptured three out of four lines of the system that delivers Russian gas to Europe.

    Washington and NATO called it an act of sabotage, while Moscow said it was an act of international terrorism.


    Roman Chervinsky, a former intelligence official who served in the Ukrainian military's special forces, managed a six-person team but did not plan the attack, the Post reported. He denied involvement.

    A spokesperson for Ukraine's military told Reuters he had "no information" about the claim. The Ukrainian foreign ministry and Kyiv's domestic security service, the SBU, did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
     
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    Many people of the world are saying that about America right now. They would rather trade with China. You need to read international opinion once in awhile to realize how almost universal the loathing for America has become.

    The reason for this is pretty damn simple.
     
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    China set Armies to war in 1980 when they tried and failed to invade part of Vietnam.
     
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    Biden and Nuland's scapegoat....a regular Ethan Hunt :laughing:

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    Don't fall for the bs Mike
     
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    It's a trivial attempt to find a scapegoat. Ukraine did not and does not have such opportunities. But British and American specialists have such opportunities. Especially given the fact that at that time, in this place, NATO military and maritime exercises were being held.
     
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    It wasn't us. Deal with it.
     
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    Yeah, yeah. We remember.

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    One of the few times dear leader wasn't lying

     
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    :laughing:

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    sure
     
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    Where's the proof Bill?
     
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    Ukraine is the USA/NATO according to Bill and DOI.
     
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    Your first instincts were correct--they did not have the capability.

    As Biden noted months before the event, the US took out Nordstream.
     
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    "US took out Nordstream"?


    Provide the smoking gun evidence....please and thank you.
     
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