National Geographic and Climate Scientists Predict Arctic Ice to Disappear !!

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  1. Elmer Fudd

    Elmer Fudd New Member

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    By the summer of 2012:

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/12/071212-AP-arctic-melt.html

    This week, after reviewing his own new data, NASA climate scientist Jay Zwally said: "At this rate, the Arctic Ocean could be nearly ice-free at the end of summer by 2012, much faster than previous predictions."

    So scientists in recent days have been asking themselves these questions: Was the record melt seen all over the Arctic in 2007 a blip amid relentless and steady warming? Or has everything sped up to a new climate cycle that goes beyond the worst case scenarios presented by computer models?

    "The Arctic is often cited as the canary in the coal mine for climate warming," said Zwally, who as a teenager hauled coal. "Now as a sign of climate warming, the canary has died. It is time to start getting out of the coal mines."




    Well it is still here, pretty much the same as 2007. So are the polar bears.........

    Same lame stuff they are still peddling......

    Another doomsday bites the dust........................
     
  2. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nice cherrypick. It allows you to ignore the real issues. Which is why you do it.

    So, got any avalanche o' crap data dumps of previously refuted propaganda that you'll take 5 seconds to copy and paste, only to demand we spend hours refuting it line-by-line? If you're going to reuse all of your sleazy tactics, that one should be next on the list.
     
  3. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yep and crazy Christians picked not one, but two dates for dooms day last year, they were wrong too, making predictions when you do not have all the data is foolish, Science needs to continue to research man's role in climate change and get back to us when they have all the facts, cause it may be that were are pro-longing the next ice age... who really knows
     
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    wyly Well-Known Member

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    :laughing: do you enjoy posting dumb posts? the June 2012 melt is the largest on record...and Polar bears in the southern portions of their range are most definitely under stress...
     
  5. politicalcenter

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    All the OP is doing is shooting himself in the foot.

    It just proves the earth is getting warmer...and will continue to do so.

    We still have Loins also...just not as many as we used to have.
     
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    _Inquisitor_ Well-Known Member

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    It is not like people did not hear scare scenarios
    anounced by scientists all the time in 2007, 2006, 2005, 2003,..1970, … back to 1956– when none of them have materialized. You wouldn’t even think about submitting any facts to back up your name calling. This woiuldn’t come to you head. But you post unrelated to OP insults, insinuations and lies. You just want to stir way from from the truth
     
  7. Elmer Fudd

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    Arctic ice is at the long term average. Polar bears overall are doing great....


    who is cherry picking now....???
     
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    So, since Xns are crazy and they were wrong, scientists can continue their unnumerated and exceeding the number of ten fold scare mongering of Xns, whilist using money they extort from Xns. One may not be given the gift of Xn faith, but one should clearly see that when a nation turns away from God it shouldn’t expect to keep the same prosperity and freedom of persuite opf happiness, or to be a leader of other nations as it enjoyed before.
     
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    Belivers in evolution cannot understand the subject of th OP. It is not about evolution or global warming. It is about the fact that scientifc predictions keep on shooting themselves in the foot.
     
  10. Elmer Fudd

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    Sounds like I hit a nerve mammoot......

    Gonna have t dig up all those other doomsday predictions the great and wonderful "climate experts" said would happen by now....weren't we supposed to be well beyond something ya'll called a "tipping point" and on a roller coaster to hell by now???

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    I for one do not need to hear about your loins.
     
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    I'm more worried about an EMP attack. And have been for about the last year.

    I'm a step ahead of Newt. And the US government apparently.
     
  13. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jesus got annoyed by jackasses too, so that's no sin. I freely admit to being annoyed by lying cowards, and by belligerent stupidity.

    All you do now is idiot cherry picks and personal attacks. Even your conservative brethren want nothing to do with you, because you embarrass them so badly. So why do you keep trying? Everyone on every side of the issue is laughing at you.

    But as always, my standard deal still stands. If you stop lying about me, I'll stop telling the truth about you.
     
  14. Elmer Fudd

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    Where have I made personal attacks on you?? Where have I lied about you?

    If you feel I have you should report me. Tell you what, you do that, and I'll report this post full of vulgar insults and we can see what the mods say.......

    Now take your insults elsewhere and stick to the subject.....I'll repeat it just one more time.....history has shown "climate experts" predictions to be false (Hansen being the godfather). So why should the world believe all the fresh predictions of doomsday yet again...????
     
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    The ice is still there. And it will still be there 20 years from now.
    Every organism is under stress. It's called, "evolution."
     
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    The last three June ice levels were the lowest in the satellite record.

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    oops!!
     
  18. Elmer Fudd

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    Yes and it varies a LOT. In April it was at the 21 year average. My friend, I have never doubted nor claimed that it is very likely the world is warming (interglacial) what I am against is the bizarre fanaticism of some saying it is the END of the world unless MAN changes. Recall my post was about "climate scientists" saying it would be GONE now....zero nada (not the 6-7% the graph shows), and to save the world we had to return to the stone age.

    In the Miocene CO2 was way above where it is now, the world was warmer, and life went on.........
     
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    Basically the world has been warming and has been losing glaciers since the end of the last ice age. When glaciers start growing and we start heading into the next ice age is when I will be concerned. Most of earths history has been a planet covered in ice, enjoy this brief warm spell, it's a great time to be here.
     
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    Precisely !
     
  21. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Strangely enough..... those coal mines in China are having a similar effect on the world's climate as a major volcanic eruption does.......... there are cooling the climate or masking a general global warming trend.

    Do a search for Global Dimming for more info.
     
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    explain how that is so?
     
  23. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is an old saying that within the negatives...… there are always positives....... and within the positives...… are always negatives.

    The threat of rising ocean levels........ which could at least partly be alleviated by investing in turning the deserts of the nation of Jordan green through large scale desalination of ocean water...… could play a significant role in turning the world in the general direction of peace.


    http://saharaforestproject.com/projects/jordan.html

    Sahara Forest Project Jordan
     
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    Where's the experiment?
     
  25. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Google "Maldive Islands, Global Dimming" and it should pop right up.....
     

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