Netanyahu to Putin: Israel may act to curb Iran's clout in Syria Aug. 23rd, 2017 Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday that Israel was prepared to act unilaterally to prevent an expanded Iranian military presence in Syria. ... Israel fears an eventual Assad victory could leave Iran with a permanent garrison in Syria, extending a threat posed from neighboring Lebanon by the Iranian-backed Hezbollah. .... "Iran is already well on its way to controlling Iraq, Yemen and to a large extent is already in practice in control of Lebanon," Netanyahu told Putin. "We cannot forget for a single minute that Iran threatens every day to annihilate Israel," Netanyahu said. "Israel opposes Iran's continued entrenchment in Syria. We will be sure to defend ourselves with all means against this and any threat." 'CONSTRUCTIVE ROLE' Putin, in the part of the meeting to which reporters had access, did not address Netanyahu's remarks about Iran's role in Syria nor his threat to take unilateral military action. But at the United Nations, Russian U.N. Ambassador Vassily Nebenzia told reporters the de-escalation zones established in Syria, of which Iran is guarantor alongside Turkey and Russia, are "real progress on the way to end that tragic war". Keep reading more here: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-russia-israel-idUSKCN1B30JS ------------- So, this means that Israel does not want Bashar Assad to regain his country from ISIS etc. Iran is actually aiding the peace efforts in Syria. But Israel doesn't care, only worries about itself. I don't believe the Iranians would in any way want to harm Israel, because that would mean their own death. Are the Israelis justified to "unilaterally" rebuke Iran out of Syria, so they and ISIS can take the country over themselves? Strange, Israel opposes Iran's presence in Syria, yet, they have no problem with themselves annexing Syria's Golan Heights. How do you see this conflict?
Jeannette began a discussion a while ago that explains a part of the situation that P. M. Benjamin Netanyahu should be able to factor into his policies. Why Assad Fights - 96% Arabs Want Genocide Of All Alawites http://www.politicalforum.com/index...6-arabs-want-genocide-of-all-alawites.410824/
Thanks to Mr. Grau, I became aware again of this thread of a month ago! Mr. Tate, you have to use the "Quote" function, if you want a reply, so I can see that someone answered!! O.k., let's see where we are at... Hm, you quoted Jeannette's post in some other thread! Why didn't you mention the part of the situation Netanyahu should be able to factor into his policies? It's cruel to expect me, completely disconnected from Jeannette's post, to figure that out! Without much digging it should be clear WHY Assad is fighting so hard - he wants to save his people and his country from the imperial hawks. Israel worries forever and a day about Iran. Netanyahu runs around from one big leader to another for support and reassurance. Thank God, cooler heads than his prevail ... so far!
RE: I would say that Netanyahu spends his time trying to get support for a war on Iran(1) & trying to "thwart an American-Iranian rapprochement"(2) (1) "Netanyahu Is Meeting Trump To Push For War With Iran" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/netanyahu-trump-war-with-iran_us_59bfc6e6e4b086432b089840 EXCERPT "Today, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will meet with Donald Trump at the White House and push the U.S. to withdraw from the nuclear accord with Iran. …both the IAEA and the U.S. intelligence services have consistently reported that Tehran is living up to its obligations),"CONTINUED (2) "The Coming Love Affair With Iran” http://www.theamericanconservative.com/2013/09/30/the-coming-love-affair-with-iran/ EXCERPTS “I expect Netanyahu and the Israel lobby to use every diplomatic trick they can muster to thwart an American-Iranian rapprochement before it happens. They may succeed; that would be the cynics’ view. As the chattering classes are saying in Teheran right now, the Israel lobby will “not allow it.” But Israel, even with its well-entrenched lobby, doesn’t hold all the cards, and we may find out it holds fewer than we think. . .... and Aipac, will try to block any improvement in US-Iran relations.”CONTINUED
You are a sweetheart, Mr. Grau.... coming to my aid. Let's try now and blow some life into this thread!! For starters, I read the HuffPost article of Sept. 18th 2017. What caught my attention was Netanyahu's reference to Germany 1938. He worries, Iran could be as sneaky as Germany at the time and start invading the West. Lies Israel to the west of Iran?? Yes, it does! But Saudi Arabia lies much closer to Israel, why not worry about them? Oh, that is a secret... they are relatives! (There is the research of Mohammad Sakher who recounts the story about how a Jewish man disguised himself as an Arab and seeded the Saudi lineage.) http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/israel-and-saudi-arabia-best-friends/ Don't forget, the Americans like to do business and earn a few bucks. Their economy urgently needs a boost. A vast market would open up for them and many American business people are Jewish who wouldn't be able to turn down some business opportunities. I hope it will dawn on Israel not to be always the stick in the mud and draw everybody down to their pitiful level. Israel pursues a one-way vision only>>>> what is good and advantageous to us!!
Who thinks that Iran is not a great threat to Israel? Former Mossad chief Tamir Pardo, that's who. "EX MOSSAD CHIEF: ISRAEL'S BIGGEST THREAT IS POTENTIAL CIVIL WAR, NOT IRAN" http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Po...threat-is-potential-civil-war-not-Iran-466415 EXCERPT "The most pressing threat to Israel is not Iran, but rather the increased polarization within Israeli society, former Mossad chief Tamir Pardo said in his first public appearance since leaving office in June. “There is no outside existential threat to Israel, the only real existential threat is internal division,” Pardo said at an annual event to honor fallen Druse soldiers in the North. In response to reporter’s questions, Pardo also addressed the Palestinian issue, saying that without a diplomatic solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict “we will never be able to achieve normalization with our Arab neighbors.”CONTINUED There's little I can add to the truths stated by Pardo except that his sage advice is destined to fall on deaf ears as Israel's right wing Government has repeatedly made it clear that it does not want peace: "Israel Does Not Want Peace" http://www.haaretz.com/peace/1.601112 EXCERPT "Rejectionism is embedded in Israel's most primal beliefs. There, at the deepest level, lies the concept that this land is destined for the Jews alone Israel does not want peace. There is nothing I have ever written that I would be happier to be proved wrong about. But the evidence is piling up. In fact, it can be said that Israel has never wanted peace – a just peace, that is, one based on a just compromise for both sides. The single most overwhelming item of evidence of Israel’s rejection of peace is, of course, the settlements project. From the dawn of its existence, there has never been a more reliable or more precise litmus test for Israel’s true intentions than this particular enterprise. In plain words: The builders of settlements want to consolidate the occupation, and those who want to consolidate the occupation do not want peace. That’s the whole story in a nutshell."CONTINUED
To at least some degree P. M. Benjamin Netanyahu and his team should obviously be worried that they not initiate a policy that leads to the genocide of Syria's Alawite Christians. P. M. Benjamin Netanyahu is I am sure well aware of the prediction by Rabbi Judah ben Samuel that 1917, 1967 and 2017 would be Jubilee years. The Rabbi predicted that 2017 would be a bigger Jubilee than the previous two............ although from the perspective of P. M. Netanyahu and most Israelis......... those two previous Jubilee years were significant indeed. You are probably aware of the ancient Jewish philosophical concepts that might fit with this discussion aren't you? (There I am being cruel again aren't I)???? http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/jamie-baillie-nova-scotia-israel-and-jordan.506627/ OK... I will give you a hint: http://www.britam.org/messiah.html and ... Rabbi Pinchas Winston on the same subject.......
In other words, nothing but the whole of Palestine without its Natives will satisfy the builders of settlements! No, it won't. They will still worry about Iran! So, Iran needs to be smashed to pieces, THEN Netanyahu and his people will be happy! No, they still wouldn't be happy. They still want more land! How much more do they want? They only want what God promised them. Genesis 15:18 declares to Abraham: “To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates.” God later confirms this promise to Abraham’s son Isaac and Isaac’s son Jacob (whose name was later changed to Israel). When the Israelites were about to invade the Promised Land, God reiterated the land promise, as recorded in Joshua 1:4: “Your territory will extend from the desert to Lebanon, and from the great river, the Euphrates—all the Hittite country—to the Great Sea on the west.” Not too shabby. God is indeed very generous to his people. Some countries might not cooperate, though. Saudi Arabia would pretty much be wiped out. But for the present it is nice to dream about Eretz Israel. https://www.gotquestions.org/Israel-land.html
O.k., let's take this serious!! Israel wants war with Iran and is willing, according to Netanyahu, to go it alone, meaning without the United States. Would they drop a couple of atom bombs on Iran? Would they go undercover and assassinate a bunch of Iranian leaders and dignitaries, so the government would collapse? Knowing Iran has no nuclear weapons, would they risk to attack by land and air with help from their terrorist friends (Daesh, Nusra, Isis etc.)? One would and should assume that they already have a solid attack plan in the drawer. Could they win? Would Russia stop Israel? Would the US stop or encourage them? Would all the other countries stand by and just gawk? I think, Netanyahu is only bragging, like Kim from N. Korea.
Sorry, Mr. Tate, I'll pass. Thanks for your good-will and effort but to read and understand your hint is more cruel/worse than having to read Jeannette's thread!!!
In spite of Netanyahu's bellicose rhetoric, I don't think that the Israeli people or government will support attacking Iran alone. Like Israel's previous "Greatest Threat", Iraq, they will try to dupe the Americans & other countries into attacking Iran via some sort of False Flag Op. Since the last war for Israel turned out so dismally, I don't see Americans taking the bait again. Fortunately, Assad remains popular & in control of most of his country while the US & Israeli supported ISIS / Syrian rebels seem to be losing(1) so I don't see an Israeli fueled attack by land / air etc either Additionally, I don't think that Russia, China, the EU & other Iranian trade partners(2) will allow Israel to screw up the region while it shows so much promise in boosting their economies. Iran is not only rich in gas, it is abundantly rich in valuable minerals. Netanyahu, like Kim Jong Un & Trump is the wild card because he is facing charges for fraud & needs something like a war to distract those bringing charges against him. Briefly put, Iran, like Israel is going nowhere while Iran's future seems brighter. (1) "Syrian rebels are losing Aleppo and perhaps also the war" https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...6591104bb19_story.html?utm_term=.6a4be5fe2437 EXCERPT "The loss of Aleppo, Syria’s largest city and the most significant urban center to fall, at least partially, under rebel control, would represent a potentially decisive blow to the nearly five-year-old rebellion against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. The intervention by the Russian air force, ostensibly intended to battle the Islamic State, has mostly targeted moderate rebels, tilting the military balance in favor of Assad and enabling the government’s spurt of gains in recent weeks."CONTINUED (2) Foreign Investors Flock to Iran as U.S. Firms Watch on the Sidelines" https://www.wsj.com/articles/foreig...s-u-s-firms-watch-on-the-sidelines-1490607002 EXCERPT "After years shunning Iran, Western businesses are bursting through the country’s doors—but U.S. companies are noticeably absent."CONTINUED
