Netanyahu says "no one will stop us" in Gaza

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  1. georgephillip

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    Mass starvation's effects on civilians in Gaza are just beginning to become obvious; naturally the racist state of Israel is doing all it can to obscure its man made starvation:

    https://mronline.org/2024/03/21/israel-is-starving-palestinians-to-death-while-the-world-watches/

    "UNRWA has already confirmed that one in three children in northern Gaza are malnourished.

    "In the last few weeks over 25 children have died due to the same.

    "The situation in other parts of Gaza is approaching similar levels at an alarming speed.

    "The same day that the IPC released its findings, Philippe Lazzarini, the head of UNRWA, was denied entry to Gaza by Israeli authorities. In a post on X, Lazzarini wrote,

    "'UNRWA has by far the largest presence among all humanitarian organizations in Gaza. My visit today was supposed to coordinate & improve the humanitarian response.'

    "He added,

    "'This man-made starvation under our watch is a stain on our collective humanity. Too much time was wasted, all land crossings must open now. Famine can be averted with political will.'"

    Israel is a stain on our collective humanity.
     
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    The same exact number as Christians.

    Do you understand Arab Christians were also driven from their homes in 1948 by Jews who would not accept a non-Jewish minority of more than 25% in their racist state?

    You seem perplexed by the meaning of the word "indigenous" as it relates to Palestine:

    https://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/...istinct social,which they have been displaced.

    "Indigenous Peoples are distinct social and cultural groups that share collective ancestral ties to the lands and natural resources where they live, occupy or from which they have been displaced.

    "The land and natural resources on which they depend are inextricably linked to their identities, cultures, livelihoods, as well as their physical and spiritual well-being."

    In 1948 700,000 Palestinians shared collective ancestral ties to the land, natural resources, and private assets where they lived. They were ethnically cleansed by Jews who then turned over the legal property of indigenous Palestinians to Jews from around the world.
     
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    Because based on 76 years of history, Jews will never allow things to cool down enough to permit a right of return for non-Jews whose land has been stolen.

    Israel will fill Gaza with illegal civilian "settlers" just as it has done on the West Bank for the last fifty years, and US taxpayers will likely pay for those war crimes too.
     
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    Chris Hedges made an interesting accusation about the pier Genocide Joe is building off Gaza. He said it will be used NOT to funnel food and medicine, but to deport the Palestinians from Gaza. We will see if he is right.
     
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    Why is the sole focus on Israel, Israel, Israel? There are far more unadulterated atrocities in the region and the world. How many people did Hafez and now Bashir Assad massacre to stay in power? How many Yemenites have the Houtis killed?

    I know, crickets.

    Israel must defend itself, period. It was Hamas, not Israel, that broke the ̶H̶u̶n̶d̶a̶ cease fire.
    Didn't you know that all Arab-majority societies are enlightened, sedate and liberal countries? </sarcasm>
     
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    What Israel is doing to Gazans is one of world history’s greatest crimes. Not realizing this exemplifies a blindness that reveals a high level of indoctrination.
     
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    I am committed to Israel's survival as a Jewish state. If you call that "indoctrination" that's fine.
     
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    How does any of that allow you to support genocide?
     
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    The reason we especially focus on Israel, is because we fund everything that Israel does. We do NOT want ethnic cleansing and genocide being carried out on our dime, with the weapons and munitions WE provide!
     
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    If you are committed to Israel's survival as a Jewish state, then you would DEMAND the removal of Netanyahu and the horrific, inhumane, and foolish actions being carried out in Gaza. Those actions are condemning Israel to death and destruction. Those who support the slaughter in Gaza are betraying Israel, hastening its destruction. Netanyahu has betrayed the Jewish state of Israel in order to keep his political career alive.

    Those who support the well being of Israel and its people support ending the fighting in Gaza, rebuilding it, and support a two state solution.
     
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    And where did Mr Hedges say they were going to go? Texas?
     
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    Well, I am too.

    Not that it is at issue.

    The invasion of Gaza and the resulting casualties, force starvation and mass destruction are real. It has all the earmarks of an ethnic cl ensign operation.

    There is no direct threat to Isreal’s sovereignty. Folks can conjure up quotes from past declarations and public statements to the contrary.

    But the fact is that Israel has not faced any extistential threat to its existence since 1973.

    I have no problem with the survival of the Jewish state.

    I have a real problem with the invasion and mass murder going on in Gaza.
     
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    Like me, Im sure you live on conquered land. If you want to make cultural identity a factor, the Jewish people started there in 1800 BC. This is thousands of years before Islam started. Israel is a tiny scratch of land surrounded by massive territories controlled by Muslims. These territories have been cleansed of Jews, Christians, atheists, gay people, non-Muslims, and those critical of religion.

    Palestinian leadership is not interested in their peoples identities, cultures, livelihoods, as well as their physical and spiritual well-being. Its about cleansing the land of these minorities like they have already accomplished in the rest of the region.

    Will two random guys on the internet solve an issue no one else could for thousands of years? Of course not. The only solution I can see is to contain those bent on cleansing the land and keep them from coming within arms reach of Israelis.
     
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    He mentioned somewhere in the ME, but who’s know.
     
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    You say that as Israel is cleansing a minority in their country. over 30,000 dead (likely many, many more buried under rubble), and over a million starving to death. Half the buildings flattened. No one is doing any "cleansing" except Israel against the Palestinians.
     
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    That’s obvious to those of us still able to think and overcome state propaganda.

    Those people who dispute this genocide, expose themselves as dupes of state propaganda. We have far too many of these people in our nation.
     
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    Ground is often lost when starting a war. Perhaps raping, mutilating, murdering, and kidnapping innocent civilians was a stupid idea. If only they cared about their own people as much as they hated Jews.
     
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    Your post indicates a lack of education. The Palis are an oppressed minority in Israel. They’ve been under attack for decades. They responded to this oppression. Yet somehow you only know Israel’s position, proving you’ve accepted propaganda.
     
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    You are incorrect. Israel is home for happy Arab-Israelis, Muslims Christians, gay people, atheists, and many Israelis are critical of religion without fear of being killed. This does not exist in the region surrounding Israel. Muslims hold political power in Israel. Name one Muslim controlled country that would allow a Jew, Christian, atheist, gay person, non-Muslim, or one critical of religion/government get elected?

    This is a fact.

    If there was a genuine concern for the Palestinian people, the hostages would be released to stop the war. If only they cared about their people as much as they hate Jews.
     
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    Your ad hom fallacy reveals the inability to defend a position on merit. Pali leadership is responsible for how Palis live.
     
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    Lol. You can’t be serious. Do you get all your news from state run media?
     
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    So, we are all just imagining that Israel has slaughtered over 30,000 people, 20,000 of which are women and children? We are imagining that as we speak Palestinians are being driven from their homes in the West Bank? That even Israelis are protesting their government? We are just imagining that organizations have already made plans to settle Gaza when the Palestinians are removed?
     
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    I did not quote a source because the facts are well known. Otherwise, you would be quick to point out a thriving population of Jews, Christians, atheists, gay people, non-Muslims, and those critical of religion/government in the region surrounding Israel.
     
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    100% of these deaths are on Pali leadership. Unless the hostages are released, Israel has to push through until hamas is neutralized. How many Palis are protesting against hamas?

    Notice how Israelis are safely criticizing their government.
     
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    Hahahahahahahaha. Statist establishment talking point.

    please shut off the tv.
     
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