Netenyahu to define Israel as a Jewish state

For many years the Zionists, followed by the neoZionists, have been demanding that Israel be recognised as a ' jewish ' State. Of course, nobody in their right mind is going to do that because 25% of Israelis aren't jewish. It's the same frightening concept as attempting to erect a United States of Christian America. Quite clearly, it's a bloodbath waiting for the starting gun.

Let's also bear in mind that over all these years the neoZionists have been refusing to negotiate with the people whose land they are stealing on the grounds that these people refuse to recognise a ' jewish ' State. Now it turns out that there isn't even a ' jewish ' State to be recognised. Netanyahu has , at last, decided to try to define one.
We should all hope that his efforts fail and that the mere trying results in such a wave of scorn directed at Israel- from all corners of the civilised world- that he and his grubby coalition fall - and that they fall so far that neoZionist extremism, and Israel apartheid along with it- never, ever resurface.

 

Is Livni saying that democratic values are in opposition to Jewish values or am I putting words in her mouth? Is there a parallel to be drawn with the USA?

 

Excellent. He is reiterating what most of us already know. About time.

 

The he is really a she but, man, this is a MAJOR admission. She "will not allow the damaging, weakening or subjugating of [Israel's] democratic values to its Jewish values. . ." Stunning.

 

Yes, it's good that somebody inside the Knesset is articulating the civilised opposition to the fascism of Netanyahu, Bennet, Lieberman and all but it's a pity that it's Livni and not somebody with a clean human rights record. One gets the feeling that it's only token resistance to fascism and that there is no Israeli politician really capable of sticking a knife into the neoZionist underbelly . We'll see.
The arab-Israeli reaction has to be solidly anti-Zionist.

 

I meant Netanyahu.

 

Well, at least now when I get blowback from saying the Jewish values are not necessarily democratic values, I can point to Tzipi Livni as an expert on the matter.

 

This is how undemocratic anti Semitic "values" are justified!

 

With eight 'Arab Republics' and more than a few defined 'Islamic states' (not to mention Greek Hellenic and Jordan's Hashimite specific) I'm amazed the apartheid naming squad has enough time to go on a Jew hunt to begin with .... unless of course anti semitism is at the core of this venture.

 

What else is Israel but, a Jewish State.
Isn't that part of the U.N. declaration passed by 2/3rds the General Assembly ?
It is just transferring the phrase to other documents.
And will not effect the lives of gentile, Israelis.


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Israel is not a ' jewish ' State , has never been a 'jewish ' State and will never be a ' jewish ' State. Truman refused to recognise a ' jewish ' State in 1948 and the only reference to a ' jewish ' State is in UNGAR Resolution 181- which was never implemented. The notion appeals to Israel's fascists, ethnic cleansers and religious extremists. 25% of Israeli citizens are not jewish .

Truman crossed out ' jewish State ' on the recognition document;



http://www.alternativenews.org/engl...uman-recognised-israel-but-not-a-jewish-state

 

You mean Resolution 181. UN membership at that time was quite small, certainly not reflective of world States today.
181 was not a recognition document. It was a non-binding approval of the creation of TWO States, not just a homeland for European jews. It was never implemented.

When the Zionists unilaterally declared their own State , a year later, it was not within the authority of Resolution 181. It was a unilateral declaration and the USA, although recognising Israel, did not recognise a ' jewish ' State - and was quite correct not to do so. Truman actually crossed out ' jewish State ' from the document.
So, whatever Israel is today it is not a 'jewish ' State- or Netanyahu would not be trying to make it one.

 

No Islamic States have huge non-muslim populations comparable to Israel's huge non-jewish population. Extremists should take care not to allow their fanaticism to over-ride their democratic..er.....principles.

http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...able-turn-israel-into-apartheid-state-11.html

 

Call me when you post a single solitary thread denouncing anyone of the myriad of Arab states and Islamic republics.

 

Again, no Islamic States have huge non-muslim populations comparable to Israel's huge non-jewish population. Extremists should take care not to allow their fanaticism to over-ride their democratic..er.....principles.

Most Islamic States have close to 100% muslim populations. NeoZionist Israel would like a 100% ' jewish ' population but it's up to those opposed to ethnic cleansing and other aspects of fascism to ensure that that doesn't happen.

 

Let's look again at what such insane legislation would mean for Israel's decent and democratic populations;

Many will not know it but in 1975 the United Nations declared Zionism to be a racist doctrine. It took the Israel Lobby in the United States decades to have that designation overturned. Kerry accepts that the neoZionists practice apartheid and that's just the very top tip of the ' elephant in the room '. So what if that Resolution were revived today ? Palestine is now a UN-recognised State with access to the international courts.

Is this proposed legislation Netanyahu's own finale- a political suicide bomb ? Fingers crossed- but there are an awful lot of fascists in the Knesset.

 

The mere suggestion of ' jewish ' State legislation attempts to put ' jewish ' values above democratic values. Imagine a ' Catholic Republic of Italy '. The notion is stupid. Worse, it is inflammatory.

 

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Netanyahu will do or say anything to ensure he stays in power as PM-especially with the presidential election imminent in June.

 

My apologies.

They often have appalling human rights records, without doubt, but I must have missed it where those states claim that they are liberal democracies.

 

I disagree as wrong is wrong no matter what the numbers. You have been ignoring this issue for years in nations that actually do it (some having the lowest human rights on records) yet it is only when Israel speaks of it is it worth bringing up for you.

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A 100% muslim population makes it impossible to dictate that the country should not declare itself an Islamic Republic. That's what 100% of its citizens want.
In Israel's case , at least 25% of the population do NOT want a ' jewish ' State- so numbers are important, contrary to any attempt at spin.

 

No e are 100% anything moon and certainly never decided this by any democratic process.

 

Democratic ? Netanyahu's idea of 'democracy ' would be three lions and a sheep deciding what's for lunch.

A ' jewish ' State is not going to happen- even if Bibi and his scurrilous Knesset fascistas vote for one.

 

The UN approved creating a Jewish state with an even smaller Jewish majority than exists today.

 

Thats right a democratic process, elected representatives appeals etc. Completely foreign to the cleric run Islamic nations.