New Chinese Nuclear Threat to US

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    The whole idea of "fire an forget' is about being able to pull the trigger and run away without being required to track the weapon to impact. Please name one other weapon that allows this besides JAVELIN, on the tactical battlefield, not strategic stuff like Tomahawks an Harpoon.. Stuff available to Battalion Commanders and below, where the rubber meets the road.
    HARPOON and TOMAHAWK don't mean a thing to a Company Commander defending his perimeter. Air Force and Navy assets are generally not in the equation of FIGHTING wars, although they make Navy guys well offshore and Air Force guys stationed in other countries very proud.

    "Unoccupied enemy territory" is STILL "enemy territory".
     
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    Faraday Cages must be completely sealed. We're talking EMP. Microwaves. V=f [​IMG] is a rule of physics. Lambda is the wavelength. f = frequency. V = the speed of light. Micro waves are called "micro" for a reason. They are tiny, and can easily come through any openings, even small openings around cable accesses.

    EMP is very different than radar. EMP IS MAGNATISM... get it? MAGNETISM. It induces current in ferrous materials like the little magnet motor you saw in grammar school science class. It has nothing to o with rara... a whole different part of the spectrum. You are talking apples an space shuttles.

    EMP passes through doors, walls, etc. That's why an effective Faraday Cage must be totally line with a conductive MESH that has tremendously small spaces between the mesh... measure in small micrometers base on the THREAT it is trying to efeat. The mesh must be measure in smaller distances than the wavelength of the EMP it is trying to defeat.

    BTW... a microwave makes a great EMP protector. It is designed to keep microwaves IN... it also keeps them OUT. Put something metal in a microwave an you will see how it induces current in the metal.
     
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    That has absolutely nothing to o with EMP. No microwaves in the story at all.
     
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    I already posted a excerpt from Major General Kenneth Nichols, who was the Chief Deputy of the Manhattan Project. And considering how closely kept the secret was of the Manhattan Project, I doubt that most who were involved in the planning were even aware of it until August 1945. Probably the only secret held more closely was Purple.
     
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    prove it
     
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    OK... so if the planners didn't know about the Manhattan Project, they obviously couldn't plan to use nukes Thank you for proving my point.
     
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    But the people leading the Manhattan Project did. Hence quoting one of the senior members of that project, who was involved in planning that phase of Operation Downfall which was unknown to the rest of the planners because of "need to know".

    By your argument, then nothing of MAGIC or Purple matters as almost nobody but the top level of leadership knew about that either. Hence, nobody had a clue how important it was when some low ranking Sailor was told to report on the radio that the water purification system at Midway had broken down.
     
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    What does the water purification trick at Midway have to do with the invasion of Japan? Different years, different battles... apples and space shuttles.
     
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    *facepalm*

    I was describing one of the most important uses of MAGIC in the entire war. The only ever one that even comes close was the ambush of Admiral Yamamoto.

    One of the most carefully guarded secrets of the war was that the US had cracked almost all of the Japanese codes, and this was such a closely guarded secret that it was not even announced that they had done so until the 1980s. And that is a perfect example of how such a secret was kept, and carefully used so as to not let anybody know we had broken them.

    It all has to do with the isolation of high levels of classified information can keep things secret from even the highest levels of planners. On the fleet, only Admiral Nimitz knew that the codes had been broken and that a steel jawed trap was laid out for the Japanese. To most historians for decades Midway has always seemed like one of the most unlikely victory of the war. And for over 3 decades, history books largely reported that the US fleet was reacting to protect Midway just in case the landings in Alaska were a feint, or to attack them if it was not. Nobody other than Nimitz was aware we knew exactly where the Japanese were going to attack.

    Something he only knew because AF was short on water.

    You claim your father was a planner for Operation Downfall, great. I bet he had no knowledge of Manhattan, as that was second only to MAGIC in secrecy during the war. He would have had no need to know about it, so would never have planned for that. Just as the Captains of the ships at Midway and the squadron commanders had no knowledge of MAGIC. They did not need to know, just to do as they were ordered.
     
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    Yeah you have putin and biden playing chicken with nuclear weapons and xi jinping acting as the voice of reason
     
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    Biden showed his cowardice when he ran like a scalded dog from Afghanistan. Putin could nuke New York and Biden would do nothing. But Putin is scared of losing his dream of a new Soviet Union and is capable of ANYTHING.
     

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