NIST examination of WTC steel was seriously fudged

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    well and to think these same people are voters, now thats down right scary
     
  2. 10aces

    10aces New Member

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    Yup, a f***** nation of zombies.
     
  3. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    well then again now that we have electronic voting machines it prolly doesnt matter anyway since they can be hacked in less than 10 seconds.

    amercia the dead duck
     
  4. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's revisit this Analogy and make it more analogous to the actual discussion.

    Something on an island ate all the island's cocoanuts. An investigation is conducted to learn the cause of the cocoanut disaster.

    Witnesses on the island report that the cocoanuts were eaten by a hermit.
    Video recordings of the island indicate that the cocoanuts were eaten by a hermit.
    Cocoanut shells on the island show signs of being opened with a lawn mower blade.
    A lawn mower blade on the island is found to belong to the hermit and it's covered in cocoanut juice.
    The hermit recorded videos of himself professing his desire to eat all the cocoanuts.
    Poop on the island indicates the the hermit ate all the cocoanuts.

    Despite of all this evidence, some kook decides that the hermit is a patsy, and that a large corporation infested the island with cocoanut worms which actually ate the cocoanuts.

    A scientist is then called to rule out the possibility that cocoanut worms ate the cocoanuts.

    The scientist can find no credible witness to a cocoanut worm on the island.
    The scientist observes no cocoanut worm holes in the cocoanut shells.
    The scientist observes no cocoanut worm bite marks in the remaining cocoanut meat.
    The scientist observes no cocoanut worm cocoons in the empty cocoanut shells.
    The scientist observes no cocoanut pupae or carapaces on the island
    The scientist observes no cocoanut moths on the island.
    The scientist logically rules out the possibility that the cocoanut worm at the cocoanuts.

    The kook does not relent. Never before as a hermit eaten cocoanuts with a lawn mower blade. He's sure that the evil corporation profited from the lack of cocoanuts on the island, and so he decides that the study was a farce. The kook declares that the scientist was a paid stooge of the large corporation because the scientist has a 401k that invests in the large corporation's stock. The kook demands that someone test for worm saliva on the cocoanut shells. He decides that the scientist should have tested for worm mucus in the sand on the island as well. To him, the goal is to prove the worm responsible, and without those tests, he's sure the worm is still possible.

    It doesn't matter to the kook that the worm doesn't leave saliva in the shells, or mucus in sand. It doesn't matter that the tests he calls for are futile, illogical, and unscientific. The kook doesn't really care about that. The kook only cares about bringing down the large corporation.
     
  5. 10aces

    10aces New Member

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    WTF you talking about...cocoanuts?

    Do you mean coconuts, cocoa nuts or coca nuts?
     
  6. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you're having trouble with the words, perhaps you should try the dictionary.

    If you're having trouble with the analogy, you're going to have to be a bit more specific with your question.
     
  7. NAB

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    Fangbeer is merely old school.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut
     
  8. BullsLawDan

    BullsLawDan New Member

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    And as soon as you quote from me where the NIST said any of what you accuse them of saying, we can discuss it. I'll wait.

    That 19 pissed-off Muslims hijacked planes and crashed them into buildings. You know, what actually happened.

    So it is your position, then, that absolutely positively no part of a building can reach "freefall" speed unless the building is being demolished in a controlled demolition?

    Yes or no? Is that your position?
    No, you haven't. You keep saying "freefall = demolition" and when we ask you to explain why, you dodge the question or go in circles.

    Explain why "freefall=demolition".
     
  9. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    you sure they were all muslims? What about the ones who were alive and uncle sam paid off? LOL selective memory issues?

    Stop changing what I said to create a bs strawman and quote me if you want me to answer.

    Yeh freefall does equal demolition as there is no other way to obtain global near instant failure on a large structure causing it to freefall.

    yes nist admitted it was demolished when they admitted it freefell.

    People need to educate themselves on basic high school physics before they get involved in this sort of discussion.


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    thats what nist admitted, now this is what a collapse from damage etc looks like


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    and this is what a demolitions looks like


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    see the difference....


    glad I could help.
     
  10. BullsLawDan

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    Since you continue to repeat a lie that has been disproven for almost 10 years, you have selective truth issues.

    But we already knew that, didn't we?
    Did you or did you not say "freefall is demolition"? Yes or no?
    Ok. And where did NIST say WTC suffered "global near instant failure"?
    They didn't admit "global near instant failure" leading to a "global" freefall, because that's not what happened.

    And the funniest part about your lunacy?

    THE CHART YOU COPIED AND PASTED STATES THAT.

    See the bottom, where it says, "North face roofline"? See "global" anywhere? No, because they're not referring to the whole building. They're referring to the north face roofline.

    Duh.
    You mean like nuclear fission? That term you are completely ignorant of?

    LOL... You claim a nuclear explosion is not fusion or fission, and then you tell others they need to educate themselves on physics? Hysterical.

    Let me explain something to you. This only ends with you realizing you are wrong about this entire thing. You are simply wrong, and this 9/11 scheme you have invented in your mind is a delusion. Until you wake up to that, you're wasting your life on lies.
     
  11. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Your post qualifies and deserves the AWD award for highest production of strawmen in one post.

    Congratulations!
     
  12. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You need to stop telling people that they need to go to school. Over and over again I've proven that you have no idea what you are talking about.
     
  13. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    nack!

    cant prove anything until your ilk understands how to read charts and comprehend IN CONTEXT what is being said.
     
  14. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Can't get anywhere until you tell us what you're trying to say with your ''charts''
     
  15. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    I am saying you do not know what they mean.

    I fully explained it ad nauseum
     
  16. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Next on the list of things Koko doesn't know is the meaning of the phrase ad nauseum. It's a Latin term meaning "to the point of nausea." While your beliefs are certainly enough to make people nauseous, at no point have you supported your beliefs been fully explained ad nauseum.

    You've insisted people need to go back to school before you'll tell us what you're talking about. You've deflected with buzz words you've seen in other posts like "straw man," "Logical fallacy," and "goal posts." And you've asked a whole bunch of questions about some pictures you've posted, but you've never supported your beliefs with anything at all of note.
     
  17. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    I was being kind.

    That is why I pose points the way I do. You see I am several moves ahead of daflunkers. I do not waste a lot of time with those who cannot debate an issue, but only know how to cut and paste.

    Massive "GLOBAL" failure on the part of the official fantasy spinners lol

    Hell I even gave you all links to the debunker script book and still debunkers are massive failures.
     
  18. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Several moves ahead in your MIND,maybe......reality,however is another thing.

    State your 'facts' and quit being obtuse...it's silly.
     
  19. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    How many times do I need to state the facts only to have you ask for me to state the facts.

    How about reading and comprehending for a changing.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    When exactly have you EVER stated any 'facts'?
     
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    First of all, you should make the analogy relevant to the scientific conclusion, i.e. what initiated the global collapse of the three buildings... Do AQ videos and such prove the point(s) of failure in the building structures? Of course not.

    As for the rest of it, you're not being honest, you're talking about what they "observed", yet they didn't have a look.. You can't say they didn't observe something when they didn't check, and that's the whole point!

    And lack of witness statements... What witnesses are you missing? Was anybody sat next to that beam that allegedly was warped by extreme heat and testified they watched that beam fail? Why would you need a "witness" at all?
     
  22. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    <<<Mod Edit: Flamebait Removed>>> their whol purpose for existence is to distract anyone from getting down to the business of fully understanding what really took place with those towers.

    Take a look at these pics, truthers call wtc7 th e smoking gun and it ALL a smoking gun.

    Look at the vertical core simply give way. the only way that can happen is if the column sections below are REMOVED!

    Everyone gets wrapped up in daflunker BS and it drags people off the core points. The only those columns and verticals could drop straight down is if huge chunks of them were removed below.

    the only place you will find technology like this is los alamos, sandia lbs, stanford, and a few other AMERICAN places. OBL certainly could not afford anything that would turn all those buildings to dust.

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    Anything that's contrary to what you state.
     
  25. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well then that's never, because Koko never contradicted a single thing I said. He claimed I needed to go back to school. He claimed he could think of ways to contradict me. He claimed he knew things that no one else on the planet knows

    But he could not refute that he was wrong about:

    Gravity
    Buckling mechanics
    Shearing mechanics
    Fission
    Fusion
    Electro magnetic pulses
    Nuclear radiation
    Heat of vaporization
    ad nauseum
    etc.
     

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