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  1. Adultmale

    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    "Today Australia reached a significant milestone, marking six months since the last successful people smuggling operation.

    Operation Sovereign Borders is working. The boats are stopping and this is saving lives.

    Stopping the boats is saving the Budget $2.5 billion over the next four years – around $50 million a month.

    We need your help to share the message that Australia’s borders are secure again.

    Under Labor’s watch, 190 boats arrived in the equivalent six month period last year.

    Combating the work of people smugglers is an ongoing effort. The Government will remain vigilant in ensuring that our borders remain strong.

    Help us let all Australians know that we are honouring our commitment to build a safe and secure Australia."

    Regards,

    Scott Morrison
    Minister for Immigration and Border Protection

    I especially like the bit about saving $50 million per month.
     
  2. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Australia needs to CUT all foreign aid to Indonesia and make them take care of their own problems, like we have to do here in Australia. Time to spend Australian tax payers money taking care of Australia and Australians first.

    If giving them fee tax payer foreign aid for nothing means them doing business with us Australians, then its about time we found out what kind of people we are dealing with.
     
  3. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Since when do racist righties care about the lifes of people from different backgrounds, different religions or different color of skin?

    It makes me sick reading this argument over and over again, from people who don't give a rats ass about those unwelcoming foreigners.

    Regards
     
  4. Toefoot

    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How many foreigners do you have living with you and how much funding do you send overseas and domestically to support a group of people that ones own government cares less about?

    Please answer the questions without emotion, thanks.

     
  5. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    I have lived with people returning from wars, and I have lived very close to people fleeing wars. My reputation is certainly not on the line....

    Where this racist government leads us to is obvious for most.....

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  6. Toefoot

    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Racist? What color or ethnic background is immigration policy? This is not about reputation. How does one maintain a sovereign nation without borders? Open doors invites undue burden that the citizen and the economy must carry, not so for the politician.


     
  7. robot

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    All what stopping the boat people has done is move the issues to other countries. Mostly the poor ones. If Australia took in a large number of refugees then we could hand the government a blank cheque. But considering the size of Australia we take far less than our fair share.


    edit. The policy is not 100% successful http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-...ff-christmas-island/5556892?WT.mc_id=newsmail

     
  8. Gwendoline

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    Yep, Scott Morrison's departments employ more than 95 communications staff and spin doctors JUST to help sell their special brand of inhumanity - costing taxpayers up to $9.2 million a year just for that...

    But can't afford a full-time Psychiatrist on Manus Island.

    I love a Heartless country, don't you?
     
  9. Adultmale

    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    So please us what is our fair share and how you worked it out? Don't forget to include the tens of thousands of refugees already living here on welfare.
     
  10. robot

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    I like to think that Australia is a better country than Canada. However we are a long way short of meeting their standards on this issue. See this for more details

    http://www.cic.gc.ca/EnGLish/refugees/index.asp

    As for what they do here, I have worked with many of them. Many get good jobs. Others, their children get a good education and they are the ones who get good jobs. Canada is better off with these refugees. See this video for details http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/multimedia/video/economics/economics.asp.

    As for this statement, it only shows that your avatar is you.
     
  11. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Those who flee wars are welcome in my country. We signed up to take war refugees into Australia, that we did until Abbott and his pals appeared....

    See, it is quite easy, the extreme right wingers just don't want foreigners here, especially those from non European backgrounds.

    Tone Abbott and his government are doing everything in hiding, the most unhonest and unaustralian government our beautiful country ever had....

    http://refugeecouncil.org.au/n/mr/140530_RCOAfunding.pdf

    Anyway, best regards
     
  12. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Mate,
    why do you always understate those things:

    not tens of thousands, but millions.......

    We are much more beautiful with them, then without them.....
    Regards
     
  13. Ziggy Stardust

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    Canada resettles 1 out of 10 from the UNHCR program, well then Australia must resettle 1 out of 11 or 12 since we're the next biggest "resettler" after Canada, who by the way are 50% larger than us.

    Don't pretend that Canada is some bloody champion of refugee resettlement, they're just as pathetic as anyone else.

    They should say, "we resettle 0.0002% of the displaced people in the world annually", that's a far more relevant statistic. Then Australia can say we resettle 0.00015%", and so on, and then we all know where we stand.
     
  14. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Gobsmacking that anyone would support people smuggling. Soooo dumb on soooo many fronts. Emotional hysteria causes problems that common sense has to rectify.
     
  15. Diuretic

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    Maybe people smuggling is like illegal drug trafficking. And maybe the reaction to people smuggling is just like the reaction to people wanting illegal drugs, stupid and unworkable.

    Take away the need for people smuggling and it stops. Hammering the poor bastards on the boats is no solution.
     
  16. mister magoo

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    Many years ago, there was this bloke on the side of a hill...he was feeding thousands
    of peasants with fish and a few loaves of bread .....he just continued to reach into his bag and continued
    to pull out more fish and more bread...(no VB or XXXX...just bread and fish...)
    These days the thousands of peasants are being replaced by millions of refugees, asylum seekers, boat people,
    call them what you will, but there aint no bloke on the side of the hill performing a miracle this time....
    Theres just incompetent Governments world wide and blokes with guns everywhere killing everyone...
    When I was 12 (1960) we went to Sunday School and prayed for the people of drought-stricken Ethiopa,
    the missionaries that went there to try to help....nothing has changed....since then there has been concerts held time and time again to raise money for the starving people of the world...but to no avail....the world still has millions of refugees...
    Whats the answer....Im stuffed if I know....but I do know one thing...something has to be done, and fast, as
    there are parts of the world that are entirely stuffed atm......and always will be....
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69AvNm8zubo
     
  17. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    The ALP were in Government from 2007 - 2013, but didn't see them bringing the boys & girls home, or stopping the wars - did you? Didn't see and protests or demonstrations from the Greens to bring the troops homes or stop the wars - did you?
     
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    culldav Well-Known Member

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    I think you are forgetting that these so-called "poor bastards on the boats" pay $10,000AUD to be smuggled through our countries backdoor illegally. How many other "poor bastards" are sitting in refugee camps around the world waiting for due process, and cannot afford the $10,000 to be smuggled in through our backdoor? Are these people that engage in illegal activity by hiring smugglers to smuggle them into our country through a backdoor process, really "poor bastards, or wealthy opportunists, pretending to be refugees?

    How easy is it to shed a few tears and say you are escaping war and in fear for your life, when you show up without any documentation to prove who you are, or you might have taken the identity of someone else WHO was really killed during the war, and our stupid, gullible authorities believe it.
     
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    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Seems to me, its the pretenders who can pay smugglers $10,000 showing up on boats without any documentation to prove who they are. Meanwhile, the true refugees in camps around the world who have documentation to prove who they are, are being usurped by these financial opportunistic gate-crashers.

    Shouldn't we be advocating that the people who do the right thing are the ones who get preference to settle in Australia first, not someone who pays a smuggle $10,000 to smuggle them through our backdoor?

    What is this saying about the Australians who believe refugee's arriving by boat should be settled in Australia? You believe that those who can pay smugglers $10,000 are more worthy to settle here, than people waiting in refugee camps?
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    D, I can`t see any other responsible course of action. The results of the previous Govt`s policies indicated the capacity for this issue to grow into massive misery, if not stopped.
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Remember the objection to the term "queue jumpers", simply on the basis that there wasn`t a physical line up of refugee applicants, standing in line in some man made hell hole somewhere. This is an example of the mentality that of some commentators on this issue. Could it be that individuals so lacking in perception, can also be expected to fail to comprehend the capacity for disaster that this issue threatens?
     
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    No,

    to bring the boys back home or better not to send them to unjustified wars in the first place it needs a government, which is not crawling up the rear end of our Allies.

    Labor isn't as bad as the Liberals in that context, but you are right, they aren't much better.

    The Greens were opposed to the Iraq War from day one, we shouldn't forget....

    Our government can only show strenght when it comes to helpless refugees, apart from that they are spineless.

    Regards
     
  23. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Of course all politicians are as bad as each other, and their only objective is to get elected so they can spend their lives bludging off the tax payers money and doing nothing. Its time the people woke up and realise that its these blood sucking parasites that is keeping "us" and our country poor. The LNP sent the troops to wars, but when the ALP/Greens were in power for 6 years, they didn't bring the troops home. The Greens might have been against the war, but how many demonstrations and protests did you see the Greens organise during the 6 years; to bring the troops home - NONE.
     
  24. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe people get chucked into refugee camps without them being able to access applications to re-settle in other countries like Australia. If there is NO process, then what the hell are those fat-cats in the UN getting paid to do? Oh, that's right - travel the world at our expense throwing lavish cocktail parties, and pretending their s.h.i.t doesn't stink.
     
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    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the do-gooders should be asking the UN questions as to why refugees are not put on lists of re-settlement when they enter refugee camps, and why the UN is not travelling around to these refugee camps investigating these situations, considering that is what they are paid to do, instead of throwing lavish cocktail party after lavish cocktail party for each other.

    The UN is nothing more than a nursing home for useless retired politicians who otherwise wouldn't get a job sweeping a factory floor.
     

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