NO evidence of nationwide election fraud!!

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Since when is asking some one a question a lie? And it began 2 years before Trump jumped briefly on the band wagon?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fraud stats by themselves are worthless. They only mean something if there is a thorough investigation so that the vast majority of fraud attempts have been identified. You will not find them with cursory inspections. No matter how smart you are, the odds are there are people out there who are smarter trying to beat the system.
     
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Lmfao. So, you were in a coma. Congrats on the recovery.
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Doesn't make any difference. Discovery is simply the pool of assets available which may - or may not - be used to make or defend a case. There is no need to know about everything in this pool because anything it contains which can indeed help make or break a case, will in any event be used and referenced - made known - in the actual case documents, hearings, judgments, etc.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    So you believe lies, thought so...
     
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    "President Donald Trump’s campaign has filed yet another version of its lawsuit over the election results in Pennsylvania, now contending that he should be named the victor in the presidential contest there or that the state legislature be given the authority to assign the state’s 20 electoral votes.
    The new complaint claims 1.5 million mail-in or absentee votes in seven Pennsylvania counties “should not have been counted” and that the disputed votes resulted “in returns indicating Biden won Pennsylvania
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    But, but I thought ALL votes should be counted??????????????????????????????????????

    I dunno...seems if there was all this evidence of widespread voter fraud the lawsuit wouldn't need to keep being revised. Seems Trump's lawyers are taking the "throw-as-much-crap-against-the-wall-and-see-what-sticks" approach. That's what is commonly referred to as desperation. That's one hell of a team he's got there.

    For those lacking critical thinking ability, what is shared above does not mean I'm against rooting out widespread voter fraud. I just happen to be one of those people who thinks there should be some evidence of widespread voter fraud if one is going to claim there is widespread voter fraud. I guess I'm just funny that way.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Motive is circumstatial and does not prove a crime or even criminal intent. Other evidence must exist, like physical evidence, means and opportunity, witness testimony, and so forth. If all they have is motive, they have nothing.
     
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    The lie is that Obama was born in Kenya. I didn't believe it. Did you?
     
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  9. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Nope. And it came out of the Clinton 2008 campaign and took on a life of it's own. Trump got on board in 2010 a month or so before Obama finally produced the relevant paper work. He was asked about it repeatedly during the 2016 campaign. And never really said a lot about it other than he showed the paper work because of Trump which is probably accurate in as far as it goes. That's the straight story. He had no reason to bring it up since he was running against Hillary not Obama.
     
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    Evidence?
     
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    coming from you.. that's an endorsement for the veracity of my post.. laughed out of court? what? by a bunch of the establishment and their sheep? I do pray that the law is followed and that justice will prevail. adios chicom..
     
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    You either have evidence or you don't.
     
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    It didn't take on a life of its own. Trump was behind the six year hoax. It was Trump and Trump alone. Whom he stole the idea from is irrelevant. And your recollection of events is seriously flawed.

    Donald Trump Says Obama Birth Certificate Fake: Report [UPDATED]
     
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    How many times does one have to point out that national elections always have incidents of irregularities, which do not prove 'massive conspiracy' and that all elections have anomalies?

    How many times?
     
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    I've lost count of the number of times I've told him. Trump has these people so brainwashed that logic and common sense has gone out the window.
     
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    The entire canvassing process and certification of votes is checks and balances on the system to find errors and fraud attempts.

    Yes, there's always someone trying to beat the system, that's why there's never 100% fraud free anything.
     
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    Check your calculations.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You may accept the errors as OK, but I don't.
     
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    My lord...no one is "accepting" errors as OK. Rational people are simply saying incidents of irregularities does not equal 'massive conspiracy'.
    There are hundreds of millions of votes to count. Do people think there won't be any irregularities that occur? That there will be no human error at all? What is sad is because of Trumps brainwashing he has people believing that even human error in counting is a 'massive conspiracy'. That is downright sad and pathetic.
     
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    Since I never said "massive conspiracy", I assume that rant had nothing to do with me.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    He was not behind it. That's bs. I heard the stuff about it being fake a long time before Trump brought it up. It was around for two years before Trump ever mentioned it. Trump doesn't even mention it being fake until 2016. Hell that conspiracy theory had been around for four years by then.
     
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    They have to actually look, and they don't. Have a lot if time.
     
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    They do look. That's whey these onsey twosey's keep coming up. Human errors is the vast majority. We are imperfect beings.

    Outright fraud is more rare then human error but it exists. Not in any large scale, though.
     
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    Ooooookay. Smh.

     
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    But they did. Democrats, Republicans, foreign observers, cybersecurity, secretaries of state, county officials, live webcams. Everybody was looking. Claiming they weren't, having not been there yourself, is just an assumption. That's not good enough for argument much less "investigation."
     

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