No One Is More Dangerous For The White House Than Ron DeSantis — Including Trump

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  1. Jolly Penguin

    Jolly Penguin Well-Known Member

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    Is it? That's a pretty low bar for the thread title. I can think of many things far more dangerou. As far as I can tell he is doing what most politicians do. Taking an issue people care about or are alarmed about and using it to get votes.

    If he was actually pushing racism or hatred against trans people, which I have yet to see indication of even if many of his constituents would reward him for it, I may agree with you.
     
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    I think that's a good point.
     
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    That's a pretty terrifying expression of partisanship and tribalism DeSantis is far far off from a Hitler, but the above thinking can lead you to one.
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    That's all fine and good. You can believe whatever you want but you've done nothing to make your case that the vaccine is a bioweapon.
     
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    Considering the current and continuing death count it most certainly could qualify as such ;)
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    What are you talking about?
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    You hate Trump. You would vote for anyone, to keep Trump out of office.
     
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    Really, it was plain as day FFS ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    I can follow a conversation but the details are lacking. What currrent and continuing "death count" are you talking about? There is none to make the case.
     
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    Whatever :) You brought up the claim, I merely added the facts :)
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    My "claim" is that the vaccine is a vaccine. YOU supported another's claim that it is a bioweapon with the opinion that there is some sort of "death count" due to the vaccine. No facts. No proof. Nothing. The only Fact you added was ink on the page.
     
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    Not in the post I replied too ;)

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    OK? There has still been zero proof of any kind to support the statement that the vaccine is a bioweapon OR what "death count" you gave as a "fact".
     
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    You do realize more people have died after the Vaccine was introduced than before it was, right ;) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Of covid? Probably, because there are a lot of idiots that didn't get it so they perperuated the problem and because of that and the period of time is longer between the vaccine and now and the outbreak and the vaccine. You also discount the FACT that if more people got the vaccine before all the variants things would have been better....but they didn't. Before you insist that they don't work, they were for the original, which is no more so I would say they work and because the virus is like a cold or flu virus and changes constantly but less lethal in those variants that is also a win. The premise your insinuating is that with "more people have died after the Vaccine" is BECAUSE OF the vaccine. Good luck proving that.
    Please, don't let facts get in your way.
     
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    Takes one to know one :)
     
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    Not to a person with a closed mind, no. I learned long ago that just as you can lead a horse to water but cannot make him drink, you can lead a man to knowledge but cannot make him think.

    I've known for a long time Roy that you think as you are directed to think by authorities. You and I are very different. You think as instructed by others, I think on my own knowledge and interpretation.

    The facts and reality that you avoid is that 1) the shots are toxic and have caused only harm to those who've taken them, and 2) under 18USC175 the shots are biological weapons. You can fool yourself Roy, but you can't fool me.
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    How about with facts. Try that.
    That explains how you get so many things wrong
    You have given zero factual evidence to back up what you are saying.
    You're fooling yourself.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Some people ignore facts that contradict their worldview. The lawyers call it willful ignorance, the shrinks call it cognitive dissonance. That renders afflicted individuals immune to facts, they don't care about facts.

    In the case of these shots, those who've taken them are emotionally vested, understandably. I have numerous friends that way. They do not want to know about those millions who have been injured or killed by the shots, but those people DO exist. Add Jamie Foxx to the long list, a real pity, somewhat worse than the fate of Celine Dion.

    A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. All the best to you Roy.
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    All you're giving is your opinion. Nothing to back it up so it's meaningless.
    MILLIONS injured or killed? Give me a break.....or prove it. You won't because you cant. The one that is ignoring facts and is emotionally invested in that outlook.......is you.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Prove it? It cannot be proved to a person with a closed mind sir.

    You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink. You can lead a man to facts and knowledge, but you cannot make him think.
     
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    The typical answer that someone gives that can't prove their point.
    I'm asking to drink from your fountian of knowledge but you won't lead me to it. Very selfish of you.
     
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    Ok, we have had eight long years of Trump is Hitler. Given that DeSantis is now worse than Trump, the Republicans have an actual candidate that is WORSE than Hitler. Reality is a hell of a drug, progressives should try it someday.
     
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    Yes, the main reason why the leftists have gone after DeSantis is because he poses the greatest threat to them in 2024. They have already blackened the Trump brand with some help from Trump himself.

    Maybe we could put some thought into the person in history who was worse than Hitler that the progressives can use for DeSantis. Perhaps it was one of the Roman emperors. Maybe it's Caracalla (ruled 198 to 217). He put thousands of people to death for no good reason. He murdered his brother in front of their mother. Here is a view of him when he was a child on a Roman denarius. "Caracalla" was just a nickname, which was the term for a sort of Roman hoodie. His real name was Lucius Septimius Bassianus.

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    I have never said ron is worse than hitler. I have simply said he is a fascist (and he is). trump was more about benefitting himself and his ego and his policies derived from such. ron is more about hurting others he doesn’t like and forcing compliance.

    This isn’t a matter of reality, it’s a matter of reading comprehension and nuance. I would offer your same advice toward conservatives but I try and not make unrealistic requests.
     

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