Normalcy vs Chaos

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  1. FlamingLib

    FlamingLib Well-Known Member

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    Clinton and Biden represent normality. Trump is chaos. So is Bernie, to a lesser extent. In 2016, a lot of people wanted chaos. Dems certainly don't want that now, and I don't think they're any different than most people. People want normalcy.

    The Obama days look positively radiant by comparison, don't they? The deficit was high, and there was ISIS, and it took awile to climb out of the recession, but all that looks kind of trivial now, doesn't it? I think it's because THERE'S A PANDEMIC RAGING ACROSS THE LAND.

    Biden wins in a landslide, Dems control Congress.
     
  2. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The left creates 3 years of partisan chaos, and then you say vote for your guy to fix it?

    WT*actual*F
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Normalcy" simply means an overbearing, intrusive, overtaxing, over regulating, left wing, federal government.

    I'm against that status quo.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Correct. Which party has done its best over the last three years to divide Americans and destabilize the elected administration? It's not the GOP.
     
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    Great speech by Biden tonight pointing this out.
    It was like Nirvana. :)
     
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    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    The Covid-Trump-19 virus deaths are up and so are profits by price gouging the sick, poor, and desperate. When the pandemic began a few months ago mysterious shortages began to appear across the country. I believe the motivation is greed and enthusiastic malice. The United States’ expertise for overthrowing third world countries is to create chaos and this is just one of the techniques that current and former CIA agents have perfected all over the world.

    In one Dollar Store two Trump supporters bought out the entire stock of paper products. I believe this was a orchestrated effort to start panic buying in one location and then the media broadcasted the false paper "shortage" to trigger a broader national panic buying spree. Media is the key factor here.

    A single person bought 18,000 bottles of hand sanitizer then selling them for $70 bottles of sanitizer. In one case two small hand sanitizer bottles for $300 which normally sold for $9. Medical hygienic masks which cost 25 cents to make now cost $25.00 dollars in deliberate price manipulation gouging.

    Dry grain food like beans and flour began to disappear from the store shelf selling for double the normal price if available.

    Trump is the leading example in this chaotic carnival of greed, and maliciousness for its own sake.

    I found this article, The Destabilization Game, by Tom Engelhardt to be particularly insightful on the use of chaos to destabilized targeted countries. Engelhardt understands the American geopolitical strategy as one of destabilization. “… it seems clear that destabilization was their modus operandi.” Engelhardt goes on to explain how this strategy is used in a number of countries around the world and even with American domestic political issues:
    The most interesting concept in this political combat strategy is “chaos.” However, before examining the role of chaos, we have to first understand in detail the whole idea of destabilization and how it fits in this method of combat.

    Engelhardt does not delve into the historical background of this strategy of destabilization. It could be that he wanted to limit his analysis, or he does not know how it fits in the administration’s clearly defined approach to political conflict and control. Yet, his analysis and conclusions do not suffer inaccuracy from this omission. If the reason is historical unawareness of the Pentagon’s subversive combat theory, his conclusions gain greater credibility because they were reached independently of the administrations own understanding of how to engage in conflict. Where did this strategy come from and what is this formula for warfare?

    One such resource is the combat experience and research of an Air Force fighter pilot named John Boyd. Boyd is famous for a theory of combat called the “OODA Loop.”
    Boyd developed a specific method of developing combat strategy. It is has since been applied to business, law enforcement, and even sports.

    It is not really a singular “loop,” but numerous possible, and complex interconnections that can be called loops.

    Tom Engelhardt discusses in his article how destabilization and chaos are used by the Bush administration to combat military and political opponents. A key goal in Boyd’s decision-making cycle is to “create a fog of war,” and provide a method to manage chaos.
    This is why the Trump administration assumes that chaos is to their benefit. Creating chaos is the strength, but also the weakness of the Boyd OODA Loop. The decision loop becomes short circuited when events become chaotic from the perspective of the participants. When events outpace the ability of a person, or bureaucracy to observe and orient, chaos becomes unmanageable. This is the same conclusion of Engelhardt’s article.

    Others have come to this same conclusion independently. Stan Goff is a retired Special Forces Master Sergeant who was an instructor at the Jungle Operations Training Center in Panama, and taught Military Science at West Point. In an interview, Goff offered his analysis of how this administration is applying Boyd principles of combat. It appears that chaos, at least in Iraq, has gotten the upper hand.
    If chaos is the goal, mass movements and reason is a partial counter remedy. Deconstructing the “framed” arguments, or talking points, of the neo-fascist extremists is a necessity. All traditional political organizations and tools can be incorporated to lift the fog of war just as the Rightwing has incorporated political institutions and resources.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People want their jobs and their country back, if sending American jobs to China and letting in millions of illegal migrants are your normal you are in serious trouble
     
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    More status quo selling out America to the world? No thx.

    And by that I mean **** NO
     
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    Clinton and Biden represent mediocrity Trump is the walking definition of reactionalism, and there will no landslide presidential elections any time in the near future.
     
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