NRA calls for armed police officer in every school

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  1. Alif Qadr

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    My thoughts on the subject of armed guards in schools is a positive and a negative.
    The positive is there will be a visual deterrent to those who seeks unauthorized entry in the schools.
    The negative is this action could possibly add to the body count of the assassin. This type of presence could also engender in the children an "armed encampment" mentality.

    This is just my opinion as it pertains to the matter of having armed guards in schools. This is too much of a step into a "police state" drive as well as fostering in some of the children a sense of tension.

    My solution to the problem of defenseless schools is as it has always been. Until society is rid of sociopathic and psychopathic mentalities, the best solution would be to have either undercover security agents within the schools who can respond quickly to any and all threats, or have some of the teachers and other faculty members have concealed firearms in case an incident occurs. Maybe this approach may seem "over-the-top" to some but it is a possible approach, short of banning all firearms, which will never happen. What say you to these approaches, Talon?
     
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    Abu Sina,
    There has never been a situation within the United States in which every single person in any given town had a fire are, not even in the "Old West". That is a Hollyweird myth.
    As to seeing children with their heads blown off, my question is, "Who needs to see those things?" Surely not the "American" people as a whole, nor in part. Any person who has ever gone hunting with rifles and shotguns knows the damage of these guns, it is always those who have do not know the seriousness of firearm use who think that weapons are toys. Even with the current "Hip-Hop" culture, most of those who become involved in it know absolutely ZERO about firearms and the damage they can cause. It is because of this, why I blame the record producers, the so-called "artists" and the promoters. These people glamorize violence. Even some of the Arab youth who come here listen to that garbage, and going by what you and others state, they should know better. So it seems to me that desensitization of violence over all and gun violence in particular is a world-wide phenomena and not just an "American" problem.

    By the way, the reason we in the United States are not shown the graphic images of war are:
    1.) FCC regulations
    2.) The DoD and other government agencies and branches who make war and unjust killing fair-seeming.
     
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    Ivan88,
    This is only part of the madness that we in America are faced with, the governments with all of there branches and agencies are bent on nullifying the independence of every citizen who have the means to be and express self-sufficiency. This topic opens up a factory of canned worms for me so I will suffice my response with what I have typed.
     
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    Middle89,
    I accidentally clicked the like and dislike buttons.
    Anyway, gun availability is not really the issue in either of these incidents. The issue is population vulnerability. In all of those cases, the lack of security plays a crucial role. As I stated in another OP, a person can make a homemade bomb and kill just as many, if not more that were killed in either of those incidents. Knowing this, I say that it is security and security gaps. People who have the "crazy" or impaired mindsets do not carry out their plans in police stations nor in other such facilities. They have enough sense to seek our sanity to seek out vulnerable targets in order to implement and execute their plans. SO it is not gun availability nor lack of gun control, it is a simple fact of security and gaps within security.
     
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    Yes, it is. It isn't possible to commit armed slaughter without the availability of the weapons. Anybody not having access to guns cannot kill with guns. I defy anybody to illustrate the opposite.
     
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    The police are boosters for gun manufacters?
     
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    What's the matter?......don't feel like paying forthe protection ofyour kids?
     
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    The money would be better spent in finding alternative employment for gun manufacturers.
     
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    Lanza shot his way into the school....even barney fife could have been ready....and how did the NRA 'profit'?
     
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    Smarter armed teachers cross trained as security guards. Cops at every school is unrealistic.
     
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    Why should they give up their livelyhood because of your fear of guns?
     
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    Blackwater!!!!

    call those guys back :phonecall:
     
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    And if he knew there was an armed guard, maybe he would have found an alternative way of getting in, or picked another target.

    The point is, it should not be necessary for the whole society to be armed in order for us to feel safe.

    Oh come on, the NRA are dependent on donations from gun owners. Any legislation that limits gun or ammunition availability is going to cost them.

    oh and there is also this:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/nra-reaps-profits-from-th_b_1698652.html
     
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    No one is talking about the whole society,but banks havearmed security watching over your money

    Are your children worth less?
     
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    :mrgreen: They're not ' watching over our money ' , they're watching over their money !

    Why should parents fear sending their children to school because the NRA and gun dealers arm crazies ? The solution is simple.
     
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    They don't have a livlihood unless they are willing to pay the true cost of that livlihood. If I have to pay for ambulance rides due to their products, their livlihood is MINE.
     
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    THanks + by the grace of gawd , NOT in the more civilized part of the world where I'm fortunate enough to be living.

    Over here , parents are far less paranoid than in youir country.

    MORE GUNS in public hands equals MORE gun crimes -----.FACT


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    There isn't even one plausible support for the gun lobby evident in this thread. That's because plausible support for the unacceptable is impossible.
     
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    KNIVES, moon! KNIVES!
    Just last night a young boy was stabbed in one of the cities in New Jersey, by using your rationale, all knives should be banned as well?
    Food for thought:
    Should knives be banned in Britain being that most murders are committed with knives over there?
    As I have stated over and over, guns are not the problem with gun violence in the United States, government knee-jerk banning is a significant part of the problem. The other part of the problem is that by government leaving whole segments of the population unable to thwart criminals, the body count keeps rising.
    The United States is not like other nations where guns flow freely across borders, leaving them untraceable. Even "illegal guns can be traced back to the source of origin.
     
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    Why should I pay to protect my kids? They don't need protection without YOUR guns threatening them. YOU pay for it.
     
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    In Europe, in the UK , in Australia- it's illegal to carry a knife in a public place. Yes, of course knives should be regulated too.
     
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    As usual, the NRA did a bang up job.....coherent, smart, mature, and methodical. It is quite the contrast to the emotional, knee-jerk absurdity pouring out of the MSM and their bots at large. If I can scrape up the coins, I think I will join the NRA.
     
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    Your kids will be struck by lighting several hundred times or crushed in an auto accident long before that media induced fear overtakes them. Just make sure you don't raise them to be murderers so that we can rest easier.
     
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    Not really. They only killed 20 kids and six adults on this occasion.
     
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    Now let's hear you advocate a heavily-armed personal minder for every fire-fighter, on duty and off;

    As you see, calling for MORE guns in a sick society which is already saturated with them is the call of fools at best, ghouls at worst.

    Perhaps the fire-fighters families would like a word with you .
     

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