Nursing Home- Before Vaccinations, 0 deaths, after vaccinations, the deaths begin

So, was I right or was I right -.-?

 

Phoenyx doesn't believe that Corona Virus exists but believes in time travel! Also, if Corona Virus is not a threat what was the cause of death of all those deaths in that home?

 

I'm actually not sure if it exists or not. I've read from some authors that either don't believe it is a new virus, others who don't believe it's a virus at all and even some that don't believe viruses exist at all. For the most part, I make arguments with the assumption that it does exist, but I don't feel I have enough knowledge to rule out other possibilities, so I don't. This may change in time.

 

I just try to avoid making the posts too long. Quotes are linked precisely so you don't have to include the entire text. You were just repeating the same things and we both know what it was. My point was about the facts you're not focusing on anyway.

It isn't a matter of opinion. It is a fact that there is absolutely zero evidence about any patients symptoms, with or without COVID vaccines. All we have are general dates for infections first being diagnosed, vaccines first being given and deaths first being reported.

I was only referring to the COVID vaccine. I'm sure it's perfectly possible that the flu vaccines have some impact on people with COVID just as it is possible the COVID vaccines have some impact on people who already have COVID. Evidence of one doesn't impact on the possibility of the other though, not least because they're significantly different kinds of vaccines.

You kind of support my point given that your link actually demonstrates scientific research establishing a true correlation between flu vaccine uptake and COVID deaths in some contexts (though it doesn't seem that they've established any evidence of a causal link and there will obviously be lots of other factors complicating the picture so more research would be required). The reporting about the single nursing home here doesn't come close to demonstrating even the correlation. The point is that you'd need the range of formal scientific study that has been done in relation to the flu vaccine before you can reasonable make the kind of claims, assumptions or speculations that triggered this thread.

It could well be that there is some kind of impact which should be taken account of but we're not been presented anything close to enough information to even consider that possibility yet. Anyone who actually cared about the possibility would be seeking that further information (for or against), not just publishing empty speculation to get clicks.

 

You've really dug a deep hole in your beliefs by creating this thread

 

So we can't rule out the possibility that viruses, any virus, even exist???

Huge parts of medical science are just a fraudulent conspiracy?

Sounds legit!

 

What media platform?

 

AFAIK,
to be vaccinated, 2 doses are needed. And they are given 21 days apart.
So, it was likely none were immune yet. And people, vaccinators or workers, brought it in.

From the link:
The outbreak at The Commons on St. Anthony in Auburn started Dec. 21 a
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The nursing home began vaccinating residents Dec. 22. So far 193 residents, or 80%, and 113 employees, or less than half the staff, have been vaccinated. The nursing home plans to do more vaccinations Jan. 12.

 

But that wouldn't work at all. They could all turn into Zombies and the only way we'd know would be by the outsize increase in productivity.

 

It sounds radical, but after all we live in a time of universal deception. With tons of people cheering on censors, we live in a time of universal deception and many people love it.

 

You don't understand what Ron Paul's site is suggesting- they're suggesting that the vaccine itself is causing the deaths. Over in Norway, they are not suggesting it, they are outright stating it as fact:
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ith-the-pfizer-vaccine-died-in-norway.583938/

 

Which bit of this do you not understand The outbreak at The Commons on St. Anthony in Auburn started Dec. 21 as a wave of post-Thanksgiving Covid-19 cases began hitting the county, said Julie Sheedy, an official of Loretto which operates the 300-bed nursing home.

 

I hadn't really paid attention to the name Mulder, but it got a laugh out of me when you pointed it out .

Such as?

Some patients were indeed diagnosed with Covid before getting vaccinated. However, no one had died from it until -after- taking the vaccines. The article on Ron's site suggests that perhaps the vaccines themselves are the problem. There is evidence that this may in fact be the case. An article from mercola.com gets into it:
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How COVID-19 Vaccine Can Destroy Your Immune System

STORY AT-A-GLANCE

• According to a study that examined how informed consent is given to COVID-19 vaccine trial participants, disclosure forms fail to inform volunteers that the vaccine might make them susceptible to more severe disease if they’re exposed to the virus
• Previous coronavirus vaccine efforts — including those for SARS, MERS and RSV — have revealed a serious concern: The vaccines have a tendency to trigger antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE)
• ADE means that rather than enhance your immunity against the infection, the vaccine actually enhances the virus’ ability to enter and infect your cells, resulting in more severe disease than had you not been vaccinated
• Lethal Th2 immunopathology is another potential risk. A faulty T cell response can trigger allergic inflammation, and poorly functional antibodies that form immune complexes can activate the complement system, resulting in airway damage
• There’s evidence showing the elderly — who are most vulnerable to severe COVID-19 and would need the vaccine the most — are also the most vulnerable to ADE and Th2 immunopathology

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Source: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/...ronavirus-antibody-dependent-enhancement.aspx[/QUOTE]

 

Even if these new vaccines are within the normal danger range for vaccines, that's still not good. Documentaries have been made on the terrible things that have happened to people taking vaccines, especially those who are very young. The vaxxed trailer is probably the most well known. Have you seen the trailer? If not, you may want to take a look:

 

Yes, "death by coincidence" may be the new term.

No Virginia, the vaccine didn't kill the healthy doctor in Miami, he developed a really weird blood disease by coincidence.

 

That is simply not true. It wasn't even directly claimed in the article you opened the thread with (though the clear intent was to falsely imply it) and was directly contradicted by the primary source that has already been linked for you.

The only question is whether you intentionally gave false information or you're just getting caught up in your own spin.

 

Alright, here's the thing- it's true that some people were diagnosed as having Covid 19 on December 21st, which was a day before vaccines started, on December 22nd. However, no one had actually -died- from these alleged infections until December 29th. Adam Dick's article lays it all out:
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Things seem to be working backwards at The Commons on St. Anthony nursing home in Auburn, New York. Vaccinating people is supposed to reduce or end coronavirus deaths. Right? But, at The Commons, such deaths are reported to have occurred only after residents began receiving coronavirus vaccinations.

James T. Mulder wrote Saturday at syracuse.com that until December 29 there had been no coronavirus deaths at The Commons. December 29, when deaths of residents with coronavirus began occurring at The Commons, is also, Mulder’s article discloses, seven days days after the nursing home began giving coronavirus vaccinations to residents, with 80 percent of residents so far having been vaccinated.

Over a period of less than two weeks since December 29, Mulder relates that 24 coronavirus-infected residents at the 300-bed nursing home have died.

Is the timing just a strange coincidence?
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Source:
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/arc...sidents-for-coronavirus-and-the-deaths-begin/

 

So are you saying that the vaccine gave those that died Covid? What caused the death of those that were not vaccinated?

The hole you're digging has got deeper

 

How many millions have been vaccinated already?
I don't buy into conspiracy theories.

 

No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that the vaccine may have made Covid 19 symptoms worse. There is evidence that this may indeed have happened is supported by a study that is outlined here:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/...ronavirus-antibody-dependent-enhancement.aspx

As to your second question, do you have any evidence that anyone died who wasn't vaccinated?

 

More than 44 million shots apparently:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

Conspiracy theories tend to be used here and elsewhere as theories that have no evidence. The evidence that covid 19 vaccines are causing a lot of harm and even death is clear for anyone who's willing to look. I think the following thread I started makes this clear:
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ith-the-pfizer-vaccine-died-in-norway.583938/

 

People don't die immediately after being diagnosed with COVID. The timing between the first diagnoses and first deaths reported here is perfectly normal. There is no need for the vaccine being delivered in the home to have had any impact on their outcomes based on the (limited) information available to be true. It isn't a "strange coincidence" as your article offers, it's just a coincidence.

Yet again, it is perfectly possible that any of the COVID vaccines have a negative impact on some patients who already have COVID. It is even possible that was the case for some of the residents of this home. The key point is that there is nothing in the reporting of the situation in this specific home to support that idea in any way. There is nothing reported about any patients symptoms before or after vaccination and nothing comparing patients who have died on the basis of their individual circumstances.

If you want to legitimately and honestly suggest even the possibility of any connection, you'd need more and more detailed evidence. If you just want some scary speculation to gather valuable clicks on your website, you're right on track though.

 

Why do you keep asking that when it has been repeatedly answered? It is directly stated in the syracuse.com follow-up article as I linked to you directly just a couple of posts back.