O’Reilly: ‘The Vicious Dishonest National Media Got What They Deserved!'

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  1. 22catch

    22catch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know I don't have much of a life to say this but watching what you stated above happen slowly really ranked up there for me as the best day of my life. The sheer horror on thosejournalists faces
     
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    22catch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Zzzzz going to cling to semantics for 4 years? You repeating the above over and over gives me heart for a 2nd Trump term if you are any reflection of the Dem parties mindset. Incapable of self analysis = no change. Love it. Say the above 1000 more times.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please explain to the board how you figure "the people" chose Donald when Clinton got more votes than Donald did.

    Thank you.
     
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    so he sees Trump as a punishment to America... got it
     
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    I can say the people selected him as its the truth.

    It's intellectually dishonest to claim voting habits wouldn't change if the voting system is changed.

    Because you don't like the way this election turned out you want to give a dozen large population cities all of the power in selecting the president.
     
  6. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not at all.
     
  7. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that is true, but he got more votes in the states that counted, thus he will be our next President

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    sounded that way to me..... the real reason we got Trump is people thought their was no way Trump could win, so they were not as motivated to get out and vote.... democrats have no one to blame but themselves for not making it to the polls

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    same reason you don't claim a football team won the game because they racked up the must yards but scored fewer points
     
  9. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes. This is important, I'm coming to realise, because if we had a popular election, candidates could canvass certain high-population areas and end up controlling the election while ignoring the rest of the country. I for one am quite pleased that New York and California do not single-handedly elect my government.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    isn't that want Trump tweeted after Obama won

    were not debating Trump won, were just saying Trump did not get the most votes, so don't act like this was a new mandate from the people or something, were still as much a divided nation as ever, republicans just got lucky that so many dems did not vote

    that said, Trump is out next President, we need to give him a chance

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    No, it is not the truth.

    The people selected Clinton.

    An anachronistic system put Donald in office.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not the same at all. We're talking about what the voters' choice was.
     
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    You need to try and get your emotions under control...take a hot bath. You eventually have to come to grips/accept the outcome of the election. The masses spoke and your side lost. It is what it is. Stomping your feet makes you only look childish. We, on the other side of the aisle have endured eight years of leftist policies. It's now our turn. Even with defeat you should at least strive to maintain your own dignity. Try and be open minded and give Trump a chance? Your (immediate) hatred achieves nothing positive for this great country of ours.
     
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    I'm not the only one. Can you guess who wrote this about the EC vote?

    The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy. This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy! We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided! Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us. Our country is now in serious and unprecedented trouble...like never before

    No fair looking at the internet.
     
  15. FreshAir

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    yep, Presidential elections have rules, it's not the candidate with the most touch downs that wins over all, it's the ones that have the most touch downs in the right states to equal 270
     
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    OReilly is part of the overall media which includes journalists and those, like OReilly, who offer their opinion ABOUT the news. Ratings are what keeps him on the air were he can opine to a large demographic. Same goes for Matthews and Maddow. None are really part of the journalistic media. That being said, many so-called 'journalists' offer their opinion disguised as objectivity. It is up to the wise consumer to decide for themselves.
     
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    it would be pointless, Trump won, we will have to live with that for 4 years now, we could of won, but our party did not feel the effort to get to the polls was worth it, thus they let Trump win by default

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    Ah, well, I certainly agree that a big part of this was a failure to vote. But then again, you can't blame the Democrats and other progressives who did not support Hillary and did not vote for her. There were very good reasons not to do so.

    I really wish this had been Sanders versus Trump. I like Sanders as a person and politician and could agree with his stances, and most importantly could believe his statements. He's not like the pathological liar who ended up with the nomination.
     
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    I've never claimed he has any kind of mandate, I think its the exact opposite. He is walking into the white house as the most hated president in our nations history. The first thing he needs to do is take a page from Obama and travel the nation and apologize for the stupidity that made up 90% of his campaign. In the same speeches, he needs to lay out his vision for the future. He needs to give an idea of what he would replace Obamacare with. He needs to reassure minorities that the BS they are hearing from the MSM is just that, BS. Most importantly, he needs to do the exact opposite of Obama and offer some type of olive branch to dems.

    I disagree. I think Trump had a more diverse voter base than even Obama did. He secured the election by turning 2 solid blue states red.
     
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    the choice was Hillary or Trump, that is what I said, so if they choose not to vote for Hillary, then they chose to let Trump win by default... Democrats have no one to blame but themselves

    sanders also would of been better as many woudl not of assumed he was gonna win and got out and voted, democrats also would of won had republicans picked a better candidate ironically

    everyone was so sure there was no way enough republicans would vote for Trump after the things he had said, they misjudged republicans and the media is partly to blame for letting people think that that way, in 2018 and 2020, we need to reiterate over and over why we lost this election and the importance of voting

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    False equivalency. You cant just change the voting rules and think that voter habits wont change. 3 of the 4 largest voting populations in the country are hard core blue states. It is asinine to think that GOP turnout wouldnt be considerably higher if those votes were counted. The same can be said of dem voters in bright red states.
     
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    Would have, for crying out loud. Would have, could have, should have...

    /pet peeve

    I don't know about a different candidate losing the race to Hillary. Maybe the Democrat tricks of crying racism! and all that would have worked, or maybe this other Republican candidate would have managed to strike a chord and pick up the same people Trump ended up picking up, and then some. It's common for us to switch parties after two terms and 0bama did not have a good record, especially in the second term, and Hillary was "more of the same" regardless. Jeb probably would have lost it for being a Bush, but otherwise, I'm not too sure.
     
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    I want you Libs to be completely honest with yourselves. Let's say everything was reversed, would your side be calling foul and suggest that the electoral college be abolished? I think we all know the answer to that question. My point is that all it looks like is sour grapes (at this point) with the outcome. It's time to stop acting like spoiled brats. Show some pride...heal your wounds, regroup, and then continue your fight. I'll always be your nemesis but at least I'll have respect for you.

    If any Liberal has a problem with what I just posted I would love to hear why?
     
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    sorry if I had known the grammar police were here I would of done better
     
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    Trump got less votes then John McCain or Romney

    Dems just did not get out and vote this time, they did not go republican as there was no spike in republican votes

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