Obama administration decided to block access to memorials

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  1. Terrapinstation

    Terrapinstation Well-Known Member

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    If there was any question whatsoever as to how liberals feel about our military and our history, this sums it up nicely. Putting up a barricade so WWII vets, the 'Greatest Generation', cannot come and honor their sacrifices, and the sacrifices of their friends and brothers is absolutely revolting. This piece of (*)(*)(*)(*), (*)(*)(*)(*) sucking president needs to get the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of office, now. Go back to blowing guys in Chicago bath houses
     
  2. djlunacee

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    Yada, yada, yada....Let Obama keep grandstanding like this, and 46m people will realize who the real child is. Nice to know you think 46m people carry the same mentality. And by the way, I do not subscribe to either party. I'm independent. That means I have the ability to think individually rather than following some party line blindly. You on the other hand seem to be pinning hope on a whole lot of "ifs" and "buts". Do you play the lottery every week and call it a retirement plan?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The real child is Boehner, as he refuses to let the House vote on a clean bill.

    The Hastert Rule, is NOT a law!!!
     
  4. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    What a hilarious and transparent attempt at damage control. Barriers intended to stop access to national monuments are not figments of everyone's imagination.
    "At the closed-off National World War II Memorial, two days of assaults by veterans prompted the National Park Service to announce that they had the legal right to be there and would not be barred in the future."

    The memorial may NOW be open as the parks services have backed down apparently due to the actions of a bunch of WW2 vets. But to claim the WW2 Memorial was NOT closed down for a couple of days as a political ploy is just plainly a trashy lie!
     
  5. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As the link provided clearly states, the memorial is open to the veterans.
     
  6. zbr6

    zbr6 Banned

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    Its a pretty good distraction. Everybody loves veterans, or at least they have to pretend they do.

    Every time the conversation shifts to heart string tugging topics and away from the economic crushing reality of the ACA a little ground is lost.

    Stay on message.
     
  7. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    It also clearly states that the National WW2 Veterans Memorial was shut down for two days until someone at the White House realized how bad it made them look.
    Republicans did not make that up.

    Read your own citation.
     
  8. Think for myself

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    My own citation supports what I stated, that the memorial is open to the veterans. I am not sure what your point is, other than to broadcast to the world that my statement, that the memorial is open to the veterans, is 100% correct and that it was factually supported with a citation that affirms what I said.
     
  9. RichT2705

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    if it's the "Republicans shutdown" then why would you offer conditions like "Clean CR Bill or nothing"....this betrays the lie you are peddling and shows just who shut it down, and why. Obamas legacy. Get behind it or we'll take things away and point the finger at you.
     
  10. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again, you'd have a point if the Dems had counter demands.

    They don't.

    Congressman Stutzman: "“We’re not going to be disrespected. We have to get something out of this. And I don’t know what that even is.”

    Michelle Bachmann:

    "This is about the happiest I’ve seen members in a long time because we’ve seen we’re starting to win this dialogue on a national level.”

    "We’re very excited. It's exactly what we wanted, and we got it."
     
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    I doubt that 46m people who were previously deprived but are not so now will be thanking the GOP for there intransigence. That you think otherwise is notably interesting.

    Your claim of independence doesn't do you justice otherwise you would be considering both sides and it sure appears that you don't do that.
     
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    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do have a point, and it was already made. Their counter demands are leave his legacy alone, give us full funding or we'll keep this place locked down from the people. Shameful bunch of school kid mentalities at the helm. Even more embarrassing are those who try and defend it.

    Let me play quarterback, or we'll not just take our football home...we'll close all the stadiums too, and point fingers at everyone else. What a bunch of losers.
     
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    Which is why they are treated like pariahs by both parties.
     
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    One party, not both.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Your not comprehending what youve read. Your link supports the assertions that the adminsistration decided to close parks and memorials.
     
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    Which Congress was that?
     
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    There you go assuming again. Who am I to get upset with an elected official who is doing what he was elected to do by his consitituants to do? How does that even make sense to you? Interesting that you bring up considering both sides and accuse me of not examining them, yet you don't do the same yourself. Whether they are right wing, left wing doesn't matter. They are all representatives of Americans who voted them into office because those who voted for them shared their same views. That you don't seem to understand this is literally assinine on all levels. And it doesn't change the fact that Obama shutting down Natonal Parks and monuments is childish at best infantile to say the least. So please, continue to try and justify getting mad at someone for doing their job. Foolishness.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Everyone was disputing your claim that "The claim that the administration decided to close it appears to be rather unsupported" when in fact it is supported by YOUR source. Your ideology interferes with your comprehension of the written word.
     
  19. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Of course he did.

    Its required by rules for radicals.

    You have to make it as painful as possible in an effort to make everyone hate the other guy.

    Typical obama move....

    Furthermore, It also shows that obama really doesnt give a damn about the American people, to obama and pals we are merely pawns to do with as he wishes..... ya know kinda how he thinks about are wallets....
     
  20. Think for myself

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    Let's review, shall we? Below is the entire text of my citation. Nowhere does it state the administration decided to close the monument. It woudl appear that I am still correct.

    At Marion Park on Capitol Hill, two fence gates were chained closed, but one was not, and a group of children played inside.

    At the Korean War Veterans Memorial, on the Mall, the entrance was blocked with barricades, but visitors just walked around the barriers and entered.


    The National Park Service announced it would keep the WWII Memorial open to veterans during the shutdown after more visited the closed memorial Wednesday.


    Ed O’Keefe OCT 2

    Dozens of members of both parties and chambers say they’ll donate to pay the debt, or to charity.

    If you had plans to golf at East Potomac Park, bike along the towpath or see a show at Ford’s Theatre, think again.

    At the closed-off National World War II Memorial, two days of assaults by veterans prompted the National Park Service to announce that they had the legal right to be there and would not be barred in the future.

    Across federal Washington on Wednesday, the government shutdown was leaking badly — partly as a result of citizen contrarians, war veterans, politicians and the difficulty of enforcement by the National Park Service. But the shutdown still managed to cause further inconvenience, as officials announced Wednesday night that the Woodrow Wilson Bridge Half Marathon, scheduled for Sunday, would be postponed until Nov. 10.

    While many memorials, parks and monuments overseen by the Park Service were closed off to visitors, others, like Lafayette Square, McPherson Square and Dupont Circle, remained open as “pedestrian pass-throughs.”

    “It would be impossible to” close them, said Park Service spokeswoman Carol Bradley Johnson.

    In the cases of other parks, it’s difficult to make it evident that a park is closed, said another Park Service spokeswoman, Jennifer Mummart.

    “In big Western parks, where you have an entrance gate, you shut the gate and it’s very evident to everyone that it’s closed,” she said.

    “Here, in D.C., it’s pretty unique, because there’s . . . what essentially amount to neighborhood national parks,” she said. “Although they’re not fenced or barricaded, they are in fact closed because we don’t have a (funding) appropriation.”

    She said the Park Service sought to close the city’s 20 playgrounds at federal neighborhood parks for safety reasons.

    “Because we don’t have anyone to patrol that playground area, and empty the trash and check for broken equipment . . . we just felt like it’s better to ensure safety,” she said.

    David Shove Brown, 40, passed a locked-down playground at Lincoln Park with his 3-year-old daughter, Brighid, and two dogs. “It’s very surreal,” he said.

    “Somebody gave the instruction to fabricate the [closed] signage . . . go around and place the signage and lock the gates, and go through this process, for four slides and some monkey bars,” he said. “Really? Is that what the solution is?”

    At Stanton Park, also on Capitol Hill, a father looked at the chain and padlock on the gate around the playground, raised his eyebrows, then lifted his 4-year-old son over the fence.

    He clambered over as his son dashed away to gather chestnuts, leaving a baby asleep in a stroller on the other side of the fence. Another dad soon followed, dropping his daughter over the fence.

    More and more climbed in, most without an apparent second thought.

    Underneath the slide, where children gathered playing “bus,” a little girl asked where they were going.

    “To jail, for defying Congress,” one parent joked under his breath.






    Actually, it appears that I am right.
     
  21. Mac-7

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    I did address your "point" such as it was.

    You blame the shutdown of the Repubs and you're mistaken about that.
     
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    Not sure of your point. "many memorials, parks and monuments overseen by the Park Service were closed off to visitors". Like I said, YOUR source contradicts YOUR claim. Its that pesky ideology of yours that prevents you from comprehending the written word.
     
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    My point is this.

    Your post claimed I was wrong. I was clearly correct. My citation does not in any way, shpae or form contradict my claims. It verifies my staement is correct
     
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    Since it's yours, I would have thought you would know.

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    They don't speak for the majority of their constituents, only the vociferous minority, as they will probably find out in November 2014
     
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    Interesting seems to me they won elections, normally people who win elections are voted in by a majority....has something changed? Normally people vote for people who share their same views...funny.
     

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